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[–] 159 points 4 months ago (70 children)

The best thing about this protein craze is almost everyone gets enough anyways and the body excretes excess protein so the cheapest and easiest way to get extra protein is to drink a gymbro's piss.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Its sterile and I like the taste.

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  • [–] 46 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I know this is all jokes, but just to stop the perpetual piss is sterile thing, it's absolutely not sterile

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Do people actually believe that?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    Yup. I've heard people say this growing up. I also saw it on tv on a medical show. The doctor was operating on someone and pissed and when people looked at him in shock. He just said "What? It's sterile. It's just pee." Or some shit like that.

    People will believe anything if you repeat it long enough.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (17 children)

    I did the math recently and I think that in order to hit what the WHO considers the minimum safe protein for my weight, I would have to eat WAY more, like twice what I typically do.

    This may be a vegan-specific problem.

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    It's not a vegan problem. It's a food selection problem.

    I'm vegan and I eat plenty of protein. More than most non vegans

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    If I may ask, what is your target grams per day of protein?

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    According to this calculator I should be eating 53g protein per day.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    As someone who needs to lose weight, that calculator says my who minimum safe protein is 113 g/day. As a carnivore, I don’t see how I do this on most days.

    I call bs on the claim that most of us get too much protein. Overweight people are less likely to and plant eaters are less likely to.

    The muscle building community recommendations are based on insufficient evidence and are likely too high. I do believe those following them likely to get excessive protein their body can’t use but I don’t see how that generalizes to “most people”

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (17 children)

    🤣 I do it to keep weight on so what puzzles me is people who drink protein drinks to lose weight. My diet plan is pretty simple (it's just a basic hierarchy of choices):

    • eat the option with the most fiber
    • that being equal, eat the option with the most protein
    • THAT being equal, eat the thing with the highest polyunsaturated fat
    • after that, eat the thing that tastes best and has the least uncomplicated carbohydrates
    • eat the thing with the least trans fat

    I usually don't even get past #2 and very rarely past 3.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Protein makes you sated much more quickly than carbs, so a protein rich diet compliments losing weight.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Visceral fat is usually caused by protein deficiency, adding protein to the diet without any other changes to lifestyle or diet causes a reduction in visceral fat.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    Nobody should be drinking those to lose weight, because weight lifting to the point of needing extra protein is very much a way to gain mass, and doing both at once(gain mass and slim up) is extremely hard. Weight lifting being the most obvious way someone might actually need extra protein.

    Other exercise, outside of extreme situations, doesn't need extra-high protein intake, so it's just excessive. Especially for lower intensity exercise that someone looking to slim up should be doing more of.

    Also with how much extra junk a lot of those protein powders/bars/etc come with, it's just ill advised. Sugar, cholesterol, carbs, etc. Some are really bad choices in general vs just eating a normal meal.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Losing fat is more about gaining muscle to increase base metabolism. Drinking protein shakes also causes a loss of visceral fat in the absence of any other changes

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    That's because almost everyone eats too much (bad) stuff.

    If you are on a cut, you have to select your food wisely in order to get enough protein while still maintaining the cut.

    Also, it is wiser to eat too much protein than limit your gains due to a shortage in protein. Imagine working out and not getting the additional reward for the additional set because you eat too little protein.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    I’ve read this stated before and I don’t see how it’s true.

    • us RDA is based on weight and we’re a fat country. It looks like I’d need to eat 5 chicken breasts/day. Unless there’s a lot of hidden protein in my diet, That never happens
    • most of this is backlash against gymbro recommendation with much higher protein levels to build muscle, that’s not really evidence based. Sure the specific levels are questionable but it does makes sense that some amount more is better: maybe I need to eat 6 chicken breasts in a day if I started exercising . That also never happens
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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (9 children)

    Vegetarians and especially vegans need to either supplement protein or make sure to eat lots of protein-rich stuff like chickpeas or lentils.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    They need to eat regular foods that have a regular amount of protein.

    Someone trying to eat 2000 calories per day and hit 100 grams of protein (a pretty high target) only needs 5g of protein per 100 calories. That includes things like lentils and beans, sure but it also includes things like peanut butter or broccoli (6g per 100 calories). Things like bread or pasta or most other wheat products (3.5g per 100 calories) are pretty close to begin with.

    A peanut butter sandwich has about 8g of protein from the bread and 7g from the peanut butter. That's 15g of protein for 340 calories.

    A slice of cheese pizza has 21g protein for 430 calories.

    A can of beans has 25g protein for 420 calories.

    A package of firm tofu has 32g protein for 280 calories.

    Compare that to things like hot dogs (10g protein per 300 calorie hot dog), 80/20 hamburger (20g protein per 300 calorie serving), or breakfast sausage (11g protein per 270 calories), or bacon (10g protein per 170 calories), and it becomes obvious that trying to get 5g of protein per 100 calories isn't that much easier with meat compared with dedicated processed high protein foods (whether meat based, dairy based, egg based, or other plant based) of supplements.

    For most people, just eating normal is fine. For those of us who lift weights and might want to maintain lower body fat, it takes more work, but even omnivores will tend towards isolated dairy protein rather than eating meat willy nilly.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    Wrong. Plants are protein. They eat some beans and grains that have lysine and methionine amino acids which are lower in plant proteins.

    Those protein powders the brahs eat are from plants.

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