"It is a complicated issue. It is truly a complicated issue, with a wide range of views, truly a wide range of views," Jean-Pierre said. "There is no 'yes or no' answer to this, it is complicated. There is a rule that the Department of Education [DOE] has put forward, and we're going to let that process move forward, and again, we want to make sure that while we establish guardrails with this rule, we also prevent discrimination, as well, against transgender kids. But again, a complicated issue with a wide range of views, and we respect that."
"Absolutely no reason for the Biden admin to do this," New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wrote. "It is indefensible and embarrassing. The admin can still walk this back, and they should. It's a disgrace."
"Honestly, this move by Biden to push a rule on trans kids in sports is not only a backwards betrayal, it [forces] us to have to spend our time dealing with god d*** sports instead of criminal bans on our healthcare," Alejandra Caraballo, a civil rights attorney and LGBTQ+ advocate, wrote. "He could have just done nothing. This is legitimizing transphobia."
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"A complicated issue with a wide range of views, and we respect that" Fuck off out of here with that "centrist" nonsense. There's nothing complicated about it, and it's not an issue unless you want to turn it into one and want to appeal to people's emotions like Republicans are doing. It was only a matter of time before they'd start throwing trans people under the bus. I guess with the coming elections it's as good a time as ever.
I welcome it, like I said in my post, I would like someone to change how I think about this with factual information. Can you please tell me where I’m wrong with stating the biological advantages of male vs female though in my example
I'm honestly not familiar with the details, but there are (and have been for a long time) rules about having to be X months or years into transition before competing. At that point the body has undergone enough changes that there's no meaningful difference in athletic ability from a cis athlete.
Even better, puberty blockers would completely short-circuit the """problem""" by making it so people don't have to go through the wrong puberty in the first place. I'm pretty sure the chuds know this and it's half the reason they're screaming to ban youth healthcare
Well thank you for this information.
In regard to the last statement wouldn’t this only be relevant to people who under the transformation at a young age?
no, the athletic advantages— higher bone density and thicker muscle fibers— are reversed within a year or two of HRT no matter how old you are when you start
Obviously, but that doesn't matter. It's just an especially stark contradiction and really gives up the game the bigots are playing here.
Every attempt at a """solution""" has another reason why it's bad, so fuck the debate, the solution is full rights full stop. Just like every other goddamn time we've debated people's rights.
ten bucks their "solution" is going to start ending up as a "final solution"
And that's why the solution is
, as usual.
it seems like people are most worried about middle/high school sports, since (most?)pro sports don't really allow multiple sexes to join. It's part of the bullshit "we gotta protect the children!" that comes from people who are ok with immigrant children in cages. Conservatives cry about how parents should be in control, not schools, and then a parent allows their kid to transition so conservatives(and Democrats) throw a shitfit.
I wish I could help you there. I used to be on your side on this issue, and somebody on Hexbear graciously sent me some resources to read. I was very wrong.
I didn't keep them, though. I'm sure somebody will come bully you a bit (this is very bullyable, sorry, I don't make the rules), but also give you the links.
Yeah I expect to get bullied on this but I hope someone can come in and provide me with the info you saw. Im not even close minded person either, im open to changing my view but everyone now a days on the internet never thinks people are open to changing their opinion. Hence, the bullying especially if they can’t present sources
this is not debating the history of one or two events, YOU'RE DEBATING THE RIGHT OF TRANS PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN SOCIETY! MY RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN SOCIETY!
also the HRT steals your muscles, you think we take it just for the breasts?
Thank you for saying it. I’m so tired of saying it.
We bully you for the liberal reading the thread who might change their mind. Bullying works.
Good on ya for also being the liberal reading the thread today.