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Hurts every time. (thelemmy.club)
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[-] Kirk@startrek.website 14 points 20 hours ago

I agree with your point, but disagree that the fediverse is too small to block all Tankies or that an instance "dies" when it owner enforces minimum standards of quality.

I think we all would have been better off if instead of burning out, the Lemmings.world admins banned everything except a single post per day if that post was an absolute banger.

If an instance admin wants to attract like-minded users to their instance, that instance needs to show people what their mind is like.

[-] Trihilis@ani.social 2 points 9 hours ago

The problem is that its not just "tankies" but everything that slightly inconveniences an instance get blocked. I really dont want to use 3 different instances because one decides they don't like anime, the other decides they dont like birds, then another one doesn't like the color blue and bans anything that has blue.

I wish the federation was left to the users and only illegal stuff is banned. This maybe an unpopular opinion but i agree that all the federation blocking is killing what is already a tiny community.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago

And on top of that, some instances hand out bans for complete bullshit reasons. It's not even just the tankie instances that ban you for not being a bootlicker, but also admins that can't tell the difference between normal, innocuous behavior and automated vote manipulation, hacked accounts and the like and err on the side of banning.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 24 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I don't think that the admin is talking about the process of administrating their own instance when they talk about being disappointed with the Fediverse, but about their own user experience as a user of the Fediverse.

They want to browse and comment and doomscroll too. As it stands, they find that there's no instance or comms with the correct 'balance' of quantity and quality (or, at least, morality), and they don't see any immediate solution or combination of federations that would fix that, for their experience.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 19 hours ago

Huh, I wonder what other social media outlet they think will be better? You have so much control here with blocking and stuff, that I don't get it either. Uplifting communities are awesome:

  • superbowl
  • bats
  • aww
  • shitposting (usually about some random food like beans or corn)

Maybe I'm missing something?

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

the dull mens club folk tend to be pretty nice

[-] blarghly@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago

I mean, the obvious pivot if they are smart is Outside:

  • People less dickish
  • Immediate, 3d immersion - ability to pet cute puppies
  • Can use skills to make money, instead of just updoots

Personally, I feel like the communities you mentioned aren't particularly "uplifting". Like, I'm not hating on cute bat pics - but it feels like basing your whole nutritional strategy on sugary breakfast cereal. Eventually you need something with more substance.

On reddit, I liked 3 types of communities:

  • Hobbies
  • Lifestyle/advice
  • In depth/discussion

Hobbies
The hobby comms have almost no activity. I'm into climbing, hiking, motorcycles, diy, and lifting, among other things. A post in one of these communities is almost a special occasion.

Lifestyle/advice
People looking to improve their productivity, social skills, financial situation, dating life, etc. I liked these subs on reddit because I could often contribute some useful advice, and often learned something to improve my own life. On lemmy, the default is that improving anything about your life is impossible, because capitalism or something.

In depth/discussion
Subs like askereddit or truereddit - places where the idea was to discuss a topic and share stories and theories and ideas. On lemmy, these subs consist mostly of tankie propaganda and conspiracy theories.

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 1 points 7 hours ago

On lemmy, the default is that improving anything about your life is impossible, because capitalism or something.

This got an LOL out of me. But seriously! admins! Ban them folks if you find them annoying! It will make Lemmy more attractive!

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago

People looking to improve their productivity, social skills, financial situation, dating life, etc. I liked these subs on reddit because I could often contribute some useful advice, and often learned something to improve my own life. On lemmy, the default is that improving anything about your life is impossible, because capitalism or something.

I hear you, this one made me laugh. I guess we have to be the change for this, we really are too small. I can see the bitching on being too big when those communities get enough traction though.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 5 points 19 hours ago

It all depends on one's interests. If I was primarily a lurker, like I was back on The Old Place, I probably wouldn't find enough historical content to keep me invested in the Fediverse, for example.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 19 hours ago

Absolutely true, but I've lurked at the old place occasionally and it's seriously overrun with bots/ai in the most popular subs. I get your point though, there are still places you can't find here. The fucked up attitudes are shocking though. If you look at any place-specific, travel sub, the snark is so rude and shitty in more than half the posts. Here, you mostly just get downvotes as trolling

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 5 points 19 hours ago

I went into the comments section a few times since, as an observer. Whole place has shifted right, hard.

[-] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 2 points 18 hours ago

I swear it happened in the few months I first started using Lemmy. I joined then a few months later I was looking for something that I couldn't find here and ended up back on all. It was 90% right-wing propaganda and ragebait.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 4 points 18 hours ago

I legitimately think that a relatively small but overwhelmingly leftist proportion of the userbase leaving had a very negative effect both on actual discourse, and on what third-parties find productive to push there.

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 5 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, The Old Place literally is beginning to feel like Facebook. A bot reposts some rage bait and a million oblivious commentors eat it up.

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 6 points 19 hours ago

I hear you, but I also believe that the balance you describe is size-independent. If the fediverse consisted of only three people, and one was an asshole, what's to gain from allowing that asshole to run rampant on your platform if you're trying to attract non-assholes to your anti-asshole platform? There is no scenario where that doesn't lead to burnout.

Beehaw.org is a good example of an instance that defederated basically every other large instance and their users seem very happy about it.

And if someone actually wanted to doomscroll and look at shitposts (I don't get it but they do exist)... they'll eventually just go to reddit or twitter where that experience will always be superior.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 3 points 19 hours ago

I hear you, but I also believe that the balance you describe is size-independent. If the fediverse consisted of only three people, and one was an asshole, what’s to gain from allowing that asshole to run rampant on your platform if you’re trying to attract non-assholes to your anti-asshole platform? There is no scenario where that doesn’t lead to burnout.

I mean, the amount of media on a platform one consumes certainly adjusts the amount of bullshit on a platform one is willing to endure. I don't think it's size-independent.

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