▲ 363 ▼ Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks (www.theguardian.com) submitted 6 months ago by chasteinsect@programming.dev to c/europe@feddit.org 54 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago (3 children) Why would anyone in the tight state of mind travel to that shit hole? permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] anyhow2503@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (4 children) A lot of people have relatives who live there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 months ago (1 child) That doesn't mean they must go there. Better use the money for the ticket to get your relatives out before it's too late. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tetris11@feddit.uk 6 points 6 months ago* (2 children) "Here, come live with me in my tiny flat. I can sleep in the bathtub." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) A bathtub might very well be better than whatever Trump's goons are setting up in all those warehouses they are currently renting all over the US... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] randombullet@programming.dev 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) And their assets? And their work visa? Language? Cultural differences? There is hardly any money for common people to take off work to protest let alone to move countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Just look where the journey leads Soon nobody will be safe from being abducted into some warehouse concentration camp for arbitrary reasons. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pantherina@feddit.org 2 points 6 months ago Lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Then they will have to travel the other way, which doesn't have the risk of being detained illegally by ICE. Or meet up in Canada, if they live close to Canada. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago It doesn't? I think it does have that risk. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Like that British woman who got murdered by her father in Texas? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago There has latelly been a lot of news of this one british lady who visited her father in Texas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) I will need to travel there for work next month 🥲 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) Refuse it. At a very minimum there should be a huge risk compensation for traveling for work to USA right now. 6 weeks detained by ICE is no holiday, the conditions are horrible, and you will more likely than not be denied medical service if you need it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] doleo@lemmy.one 8 points 6 months ago (1 child) Exactly. Imagine if a job forced people to travel to Russia for “work”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago* Honestly, i don't know if wouldn't feel less worried about going to russia lol. Might be news bias but still. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago* (1 child) 6 weeks detained by ICE is no holiday, the conditions are horrible, and you will more likely than not be denied medical service if you need it. They did state that one person had an expired visa in the article. Absolutely not defending anything ICE did to the traveling couple, but it was not just being randomly picked up and carried away like headline and summary suggests. Refuse it I am strongly considering that anyway... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (1 child) She absolutely had a VALID Visa, and the headline is correct. Just because her husband's Visa had expired , doesn't justify locking them both up for 6 weeks. She was locked up with a valid Visa. Also the story about the Koreans that were arrested, when they were there preparing workers to work on a factory Hyundai was making, creating thousands of jobs, show that you are in no way safe as a foreigner coming to work in USA. You are actually more vulnerable, as they may disregard that foreigners working there are actually there legally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) She did but her husband did not. Detaining her for traveling with him is nuts. Detaining him for that is also nuts but another story. The point being: there were "irregularities" involved. I am not saying it's not insane but also not completely random. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] doleo@lemmy.one 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) there were “irregularities” involved Just dont. This is that 'probable cause' bullshit all over again. It's like saying, "well, he did have a habit of looking out of windows. Maybe he was just standing there and lost his balance." I think we've seen enough to not believe a single thing that comes out of that failed nation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) I know exactly how stupid that phrase sounds :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacAnus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Get out of here with your non-manichean views! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago It's as random as arresting the next in line. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RalfWausE@feddit.org 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago Refuse it, I did... I can attend meetings virtually and will be available via teams, but I am not traveling to the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago Refuse it. And don't forget: they will be reading this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LordDaveTheKind@piefed.social 4 points 6 months ago* (1 child) I have a brother (and his group of friends) who decided to go, and they are full into their sunken cost fallacy at the moment. It would be very tough to reason them out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TotallyNotSpezUpload@startrek.website 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LordDaveTheKind@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago I also tried to explain them that if it is a matter of money spent and unrefundable cancellations, I can compensate their costs. No amount of lost money ever can justify the risk they are exposing themselves into. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anyhow2503@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (4 children) A lot of people have relatives who live there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 months ago (1 child) That doesn't mean they must go there. Better use the money for the ticket to get your relatives out before it's too late. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tetris11@feddit.uk 6 points 6 months ago* (2 children) "Here, come live with me in my tiny flat. I can sleep in the bathtub." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) A bathtub might very well be better than whatever Trump's goons are setting up in all those warehouses they are currently renting all over the US... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] randombullet@programming.dev 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) And their assets? And their work visa? Language? Cultural differences? There is hardly any money for common people to take off work to protest let alone to move countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Just look where the journey leads Soon nobody will be safe from being abducted into some warehouse concentration camp for arbitrary reasons. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pantherina@feddit.org 2 points 6 months ago Lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Then they will have to travel the other way, which doesn't have the risk of being detained illegally by ICE. Or meet up in Canada, if they live close to Canada. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago It doesn't? I think it does have that risk. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Like that British woman who got murdered by her father in Texas? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago There has latelly been a lot of news of this one british lady who visited her father in Texas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 months ago (1 child) That doesn't mean they must go there. Better use the money for the ticket to get your relatives out before it's too late. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tetris11@feddit.uk 6 points 6 months ago* (2 children) "Here, come live with me in my tiny flat. I can sleep in the bathtub." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) A bathtub might very well be better than whatever Trump's goons are setting up in all those warehouses they are currently renting all over the US... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] randombullet@programming.dev 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) And their assets? And their work visa? Language? Cultural differences? There is hardly any money for common people to take off work to protest let alone to move countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Just look where the journey leads Soon nobody will be safe from being abducted into some warehouse concentration camp for arbitrary reasons. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pantherina@feddit.org 2 points 6 months ago Lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 6 points 6 months ago* (2 children) "Here, come live with me in my tiny flat. I can sleep in the bathtub." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) A bathtub might very well be better than whatever Trump's goons are setting up in all those warehouses they are currently renting all over the US... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] randombullet@programming.dev 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) And their assets? And their work visa? Language? Cultural differences? There is hardly any money for common people to take off work to protest let alone to move countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Just look where the journey leads Soon nobody will be safe from being abducted into some warehouse concentration camp for arbitrary reasons. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pantherina@feddit.org 2 points 6 months ago Lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) A bathtub might very well be better than whatever Trump's goons are setting up in all those warehouses they are currently renting all over the US... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] randombullet@programming.dev 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) And their assets? And their work visa? Language? Cultural differences? There is hardly any money for common people to take off work to protest let alone to move countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Just look where the journey leads Soon nobody will be safe from being abducted into some warehouse concentration camp for arbitrary reasons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] randombullet@programming.dev 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) And their assets? And their work visa? Language? Cultural differences? There is hardly any money for common people to take off work to protest let alone to move countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Just look where the journey leads Soon nobody will be safe from being abducted into some warehouse concentration camp for arbitrary reasons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Just look where the journey leads Soon nobody will be safe from being abducted into some warehouse concentration camp for arbitrary reasons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Then they will have to travel the other way, which doesn't have the risk of being detained illegally by ICE. Or meet up in Canada, if they live close to Canada. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago It doesn't? I think it does have that risk. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago It doesn't? I think it does have that risk. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Like that British woman who got murdered by her father in Texas? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago There has latelly been a lot of news of this one british lady who visited her father in Texas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) I will need to travel there for work next month 🥲 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) Refuse it. At a very minimum there should be a huge risk compensation for traveling for work to USA right now. 6 weeks detained by ICE is no holiday, the conditions are horrible, and you will more likely than not be denied medical service if you need it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] doleo@lemmy.one 8 points 6 months ago (1 child) Exactly. Imagine if a job forced people to travel to Russia for “work”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago* Honestly, i don't know if wouldn't feel less worried about going to russia lol. Might be news bias but still. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago* (1 child) 6 weeks detained by ICE is no holiday, the conditions are horrible, and you will more likely than not be denied medical service if you need it. They did state that one person had an expired visa in the article. Absolutely not defending anything ICE did to the traveling couple, but it was not just being randomly picked up and carried away like headline and summary suggests. Refuse it I am strongly considering that anyway... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (1 child) She absolutely had a VALID Visa, and the headline is correct. Just because her husband's Visa had expired , doesn't justify locking them both up for 6 weeks. She was locked up with a valid Visa. Also the story about the Koreans that were arrested, when they were there preparing workers to work on a factory Hyundai was making, creating thousands of jobs, show that you are in no way safe as a foreigner coming to work in USA. You are actually more vulnerable, as they may disregard that foreigners working there are actually there legally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) She did but her husband did not. Detaining her for traveling with him is nuts. Detaining him for that is also nuts but another story. The point being: there were "irregularities" involved. I am not saying it's not insane but also not completely random. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] doleo@lemmy.one 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) there were “irregularities” involved Just dont. This is that 'probable cause' bullshit all over again. It's like saying, "well, he did have a habit of looking out of windows. Maybe he was just standing there and lost his balance." I think we've seen enough to not believe a single thing that comes out of that failed nation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) I know exactly how stupid that phrase sounds :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacAnus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Get out of here with your non-manichean views! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago It's as random as arresting the next in line. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RalfWausE@feddit.org 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago Refuse it, I did... I can attend meetings virtually and will be available via teams, but I am not traveling to the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago Refuse it. And don't forget: they will be reading this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) Refuse it. At a very minimum there should be a huge risk compensation for traveling for work to USA right now. 6 weeks detained by ICE is no holiday, the conditions are horrible, and you will more likely than not be denied medical service if you need it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] doleo@lemmy.one 8 points 6 months ago (1 child) Exactly. Imagine if a job forced people to travel to Russia for “work”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago* Honestly, i don't know if wouldn't feel less worried about going to russia lol. Might be news bias but still. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago* (1 child) 6 weeks detained by ICE is no holiday, the conditions are horrible, and you will more likely than not be denied medical service if you need it. They did state that one person had an expired visa in the article. Absolutely not defending anything ICE did to the traveling couple, but it was not just being randomly picked up and carried away like headline and summary suggests. Refuse it I am strongly considering that anyway... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (1 child) She absolutely had a VALID Visa, and the headline is correct. Just because her husband's Visa had expired , doesn't justify locking them both up for 6 weeks. She was locked up with a valid Visa. Also the story about the Koreans that were arrested, when they were there preparing workers to work on a factory Hyundai was making, creating thousands of jobs, show that you are in no way safe as a foreigner coming to work in USA. You are actually more vulnerable, as they may disregard that foreigners working there are actually there legally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) She did but her husband did not. Detaining her for traveling with him is nuts. Detaining him for that is also nuts but another story. The point being: there were "irregularities" involved. I am not saying it's not insane but also not completely random. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] doleo@lemmy.one 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) there were “irregularities” involved Just dont. This is that 'probable cause' bullshit all over again. It's like saying, "well, he did have a habit of looking out of windows. Maybe he was just standing there and lost his balance." I think we've seen enough to not believe a single thing that comes out of that failed nation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) I know exactly how stupid that phrase sounds :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacAnus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Get out of here with your non-manichean views! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago It's as random as arresting the next in line. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doleo@lemmy.one 8 points 6 months ago (1 child) Exactly. Imagine if a job forced people to travel to Russia for “work”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago* Honestly, i don't know if wouldn't feel less worried about going to russia lol. Might be news bias but still. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago* Honestly, i don't know if wouldn't feel less worried about going to russia lol. Might be news bias but still. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago* (1 child) 6 weeks detained by ICE is no holiday, the conditions are horrible, and you will more likely than not be denied medical service if you need it. They did state that one person had an expired visa in the article. Absolutely not defending anything ICE did to the traveling couple, but it was not just being randomly picked up and carried away like headline and summary suggests. Refuse it I am strongly considering that anyway... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (1 child) She absolutely had a VALID Visa, and the headline is correct. Just because her husband's Visa had expired , doesn't justify locking them both up for 6 weeks. She was locked up with a valid Visa. Also the story about the Koreans that were arrested, when they were there preparing workers to work on a factory Hyundai was making, creating thousands of jobs, show that you are in no way safe as a foreigner coming to work in USA. You are actually more vulnerable, as they may disregard that foreigners working there are actually there legally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) She did but her husband did not. Detaining her for traveling with him is nuts. Detaining him for that is also nuts but another story. The point being: there were "irregularities" involved. I am not saying it's not insane but also not completely random. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] doleo@lemmy.one 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) there were “irregularities” involved Just dont. This is that 'probable cause' bullshit all over again. It's like saying, "well, he did have a habit of looking out of windows. Maybe he was just standing there and lost his balance." I think we've seen enough to not believe a single thing that comes out of that failed nation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) I know exactly how stupid that phrase sounds :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacAnus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Get out of here with your non-manichean views! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago It's as random as arresting the next in line. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (1 child) She absolutely had a VALID Visa, and the headline is correct. Just because her husband's Visa had expired , doesn't justify locking them both up for 6 weeks. She was locked up with a valid Visa. Also the story about the Koreans that were arrested, when they were there preparing workers to work on a factory Hyundai was making, creating thousands of jobs, show that you are in no way safe as a foreigner coming to work in USA. You are actually more vulnerable, as they may disregard that foreigners working there are actually there legally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) She did but her husband did not. Detaining her for traveling with him is nuts. Detaining him for that is also nuts but another story. The point being: there were "irregularities" involved. I am not saying it's not insane but also not completely random. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] doleo@lemmy.one 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) there were “irregularities” involved Just dont. This is that 'probable cause' bullshit all over again. It's like saying, "well, he did have a habit of looking out of windows. Maybe he was just standing there and lost his balance." I think we've seen enough to not believe a single thing that comes out of that failed nation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) I know exactly how stupid that phrase sounds :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacAnus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Get out of here with your non-manichean views! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago It's as random as arresting the next in line. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) She did but her husband did not. Detaining her for traveling with him is nuts. Detaining him for that is also nuts but another story. The point being: there were "irregularities" involved. I am not saying it's not insane but also not completely random. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] doleo@lemmy.one 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) there were “irregularities” involved Just dont. This is that 'probable cause' bullshit all over again. It's like saying, "well, he did have a habit of looking out of windows. Maybe he was just standing there and lost his balance." I think we've seen enough to not believe a single thing that comes out of that failed nation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) I know exactly how stupid that phrase sounds :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacAnus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Get out of here with your non-manichean views! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago It's as random as arresting the next in line. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doleo@lemmy.one 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) there were “irregularities” involved Just dont. This is that 'probable cause' bullshit all over again. It's like saying, "well, he did have a habit of looking out of windows. Maybe he was just standing there and lost his balance." I think we've seen enough to not believe a single thing that comes out of that failed nation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) I know exactly how stupid that phrase sounds :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacAnus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Get out of here with your non-manichean views! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) I know exactly how stupid that phrase sounds :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacAnus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Get out of here with your non-manichean views! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MacAnus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Get out of here with your non-manichean views! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago It's as random as arresting the next in line. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RalfWausE@feddit.org 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago Refuse it, I did... I can attend meetings virtually and will be available via teams, but I am not traveling to the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago Refuse it. And don't forget: they will be reading this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LordDaveTheKind@piefed.social 4 points 6 months ago* (1 child) I have a brother (and his group of friends) who decided to go, and they are full into their sunken cost fallacy at the moment. It would be very tough to reason them out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TotallyNotSpezUpload@startrek.website 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LordDaveTheKind@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago I also tried to explain them that if it is a matter of money spent and unrefundable cancellations, I can compensate their costs. No amount of lost money ever can justify the risk they are exposing themselves into. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TotallyNotSpezUpload@startrek.website 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LordDaveTheKind@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago I also tried to explain them that if it is a matter of money spent and unrefundable cancellations, I can compensate their costs. No amount of lost money ever can justify the risk they are exposing themselves into. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LordDaveTheKind@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago I also tried to explain them that if it is a matter of money spent and unrefundable cancellations, I can compensate their costs. No amount of lost money ever can justify the risk they are exposing themselves into. permalink fedilink source parent