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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Look up a video in Shenzhen or Chongqing. Everything looks 2 decades out, and the giant crystal skyscrapers light up different colors. Sometimes the whole thing is a TV.

China surpassed USAmerica in GDP already, but it doesn't look close to tied in development and advanced technologies.

The trains there go hundreds of miles in less than an hour, you could commute across the country every day.

Meanwhile in America the "middle class" is struggling to have some walls and a roof. Record debt and crumbling infrastructure. How is all of this ignored and not talked about everywhere?

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[-] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Some of the cities look like that, but it's a huge country and a lot of it is just really normal and of course the rural areas are still pretty old-fashioned. In my opinion it's still consistently better than the places I've been in the US though.

It's just going to get funnier as time goes on and China's infrastructure and transit only continues to improve. Americans can have fun laughing at the "shoddy chinese cities" they see in some tiktok video while their own bridges and subways are falling apart, lmao.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My uncle is from the US, when I talked about the cities he said that "the Chinese are using up all the resources!"

I was surprised, I had never heard that before. I didn't have a response, what could I have I said? I don't even know how he got to that conclusion, something about ghost cities and poor utilization of resources because of no oversight I guess. Even though he decried planned economies a few sentences before.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

Ah well, you see, if the resources of the colonial periphery are being used by the USA and it's hegemons it's good and efficient, if it's being used by China or the third world, it's wasteful.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, the trade balance definitely does not betray an enormous imbalance of garbage being imported into the US. Precisely who here is using up all the resources?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I don't see it explicitly done in this thread, but to build on your comment a bit, the "futuristic cities" are a result of the liberalization of the Chinese economy and should not be upheld as a socialist achievement while the inequality still exists imo. The best you could say is that "under a socialist government, you're not necessarily gonna be banned from doing cool shit while we work towards building a socialist economy".

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