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[โ€“] 85 points 7 months ago (20 children)

Ok, I live in Alberta, Canada. I grew up in the woods of Northern Alberta. We can get week long bouts of -40ยฐC/F and I have NEVER seen or heard of exploding trees in the area. Are American trees just weak, or is this fake?

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  • [โ€“] 71 points 7 months ago* (11 children)

    I'm going to guess it has to do with how quickly the temperature change occurs, or other environmental factors prior to the freeze. It seems to be a somewhat rare occurrence, even in places where it gets very cold

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  • [โ€“] 29 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    In Alberta a chinook can make the temp go from -20 to 20 in a matter of hours, the same backwards.

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  • [โ€“] 23 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Huh TIL

    The maximum daily temperature anomaly associated with the wind ranges from +13ยฐC in the northwest to +25ยฐC in the southeast. The temperature rise at the onset of the event is abrupt and steep; an increase of 27ยฐC in 2 minutes has been observed.

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    They also create clippers on their way to the states, hence the term Alberta Clipper.

    The chinook, which in part originates the Alberta clipper, usually brings relatively warm weather (often approaching 10ย ยฐC (50ย ยฐF) in the depths of winter) to southern Alberta itself, and the term is therefore not used in Alberta.

    We uhhโ€ฆ. Just had a chinook last week, sorry.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Does wind chill make water freeze faster?

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  • [โ€“] 16 points 7 months ago

    It isn't common, and explode is an exaggeration for what I have seen - just cracked bark (though the crack was probably abrupt and loud). Montana gets some every now and again, so I am guessing at least some parts of Alberta do too. Nobody has made a big deal about it in the past outside of folks interested in trees. This is some weird media hype.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    The use of the word "explode" is misleading. It's definitely misinformation.

    Here's an arborist talking about it, but basically:

    Trees move sap and other liquids up and down their trunk from the soil underneath regularly. For trees like maples, this is where maple syrup comes from, except you have to collect a lot of sap and reduce it down to syrup.

    The arborist claims that these liquids present in the tree when the temperature swings faster than the tree can respond expand due to freezing, which buckles tree trunks causing the outer bark to crack open and separate. The cracks can be from the ground up, or they can look like gashes in the side of the tree. There's moisture in the soil too, which can shift tree roots and cause similar cracking.

    People say "explode" because there's usually a popping sound when this happens.

    In other contexts, people call this frost upheave. Engineers know about this phenomenon, and try to bury equipment like pipes and cable and conduit below the frost line so frost upheave doesn't crack and break that stuff. With trees, this frost upheave just takes place inside the trees themselves.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 7 months ago

    Ok, that makes sense. I figured that, if anything, it would be frost weathering. That's not an "explosion" in my mind though. Perhaps when a crack forms a lot of the tension in the wood is released and it can cause a sudden jolt or shift? If all the snow and frost on a tree suddenly jumped off after a loud crack I could see someone calling that an explosion. Definitely a lot of misleading terms and info kicking around. Thanks!

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 7 months ago

    I'd guess it's the species that grow there. If they regularly see -40C they'd have to have evolved to cope with it.

    t could also be part of how they grow - i dunno maybe narrower / more flexible rings, better insulation, or better ways to store sap in winter conditions.

    I assume this is in an area where such a temperature is very rare.

    Most trees do have some radial cracks in them though - probably just some very rare cases those cracks get big enough for the tree to fall or split visibly on the outside and someone calls it an "explosion" for dramatic effect.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 7 months ago

    The trees don't "explode" but young spindly trees can shatter if the conditions are just right, (and they are not right now). It's very rare to have happen.

    Source: I live in northern Minnesota. And I live closer to Winnipeg than the Twin cities.

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