▲ 700 ▼ 15 People Have Died in Crashes Where Tesla Doors Wouldn’t Open | There are no official statistics on the dangers of electric handles. So Bloomberg did its own analysis. (www.bloomberg.com) submitted 8 months ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/news@lemmy.world 152 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 66 points 8 months ago* (2 children) Manual overrides won’t count. It turns out people don’t have time to read manuals and find hidden options in emergencies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 8 months ago* (3 children) I feel like when operating a lethal hunk of metal at such speeds, perhaps it should be a requirement to RTFM. For several reasons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 11 points 8 months ago (1 child) Up until about 15 years ago any person who knew how to drive any random car would have been able to operate about 99% of all cars in existence safely without ever looking at a fucking manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago Now, my manual gearbox is a theft deterrent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago So if I call an Uber and it’s a Tesla, it’s my fault if I can’t escape after a crash cuz I didn’t RTFM? permalink fedilink source parent [–] tibi@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago What about the passengers? You can't expect them to read the manual of every vehicle they go into. In an accident the driver could be incapacitated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Should be marked so it's obvious, but I remember a post about a guy who astonished people by knowing so much. His method? Reading the manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 24 points 8 months ago (1 child) You shouldn't have to read the manual to not fucking die in a car fire. This isn't like some secret mode to let you change what noise the horn makes. This has literally killed people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] someguy3@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) I agree, but seeing pictures of the lever, how do people not look around their car and see what levers and buttons do what? Anyway my story about the manual was just meant as a story about the manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FrederikNJS@sopuli.xyz 18 points 8 months ago (1 child) The rear doors in Teslas don't have any lever to manually release the door. You actually have to take off a piece of trim or the side pocket liner to find a wireloop that you have to pull. The rear passengers in the tesla are rarely the owner of the tesla, which means that they also likely doesn't know how to access the manual release... Why this hasn't caused a worldwide recall is a mystery to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anivia@feddit.org 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) And if you sit in the rear of a Model X good luck opening the doors even with a manual release permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago* Instructions: remove the speaker grille, locate and pull the mechanical release cable, and then manually push the (really fucking heavy) door open. Vertically. Someone designed that, patted themselves on the back, and thought "that'll work!" Then at least one other person reviewed that design and thought the same. Then multiple people worked on how to implement that design. Likely dozens of people rubber stamped this design. It hurts my brain. In the event of a collision, the model X should just eject its rear doors. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 8 months ago* (3 children) I feel like when operating a lethal hunk of metal at such speeds, perhaps it should be a requirement to RTFM. For several reasons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 11 points 8 months ago (1 child) Up until about 15 years ago any person who knew how to drive any random car would have been able to operate about 99% of all cars in existence safely without ever looking at a fucking manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago Now, my manual gearbox is a theft deterrent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago So if I call an Uber and it’s a Tesla, it’s my fault if I can’t escape after a crash cuz I didn’t RTFM? permalink fedilink source parent [–] tibi@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago What about the passengers? You can't expect them to read the manual of every vehicle they go into. In an accident the driver could be incapacitated. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 11 points 8 months ago (1 child) Up until about 15 years ago any person who knew how to drive any random car would have been able to operate about 99% of all cars in existence safely without ever looking at a fucking manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago Now, my manual gearbox is a theft deterrent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago Now, my manual gearbox is a theft deterrent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago So if I call an Uber and it’s a Tesla, it’s my fault if I can’t escape after a crash cuz I didn’t RTFM? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tibi@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago What about the passengers? You can't expect them to read the manual of every vehicle they go into. In an accident the driver could be incapacitated. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Should be marked so it's obvious, but I remember a post about a guy who astonished people by knowing so much. His method? Reading the manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 24 points 8 months ago (1 child) You shouldn't have to read the manual to not fucking die in a car fire. This isn't like some secret mode to let you change what noise the horn makes. This has literally killed people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] someguy3@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) I agree, but seeing pictures of the lever, how do people not look around their car and see what levers and buttons do what? Anyway my story about the manual was just meant as a story about the manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FrederikNJS@sopuli.xyz 18 points 8 months ago (1 child) The rear doors in Teslas don't have any lever to manually release the door. You actually have to take off a piece of trim or the side pocket liner to find a wireloop that you have to pull. The rear passengers in the tesla are rarely the owner of the tesla, which means that they also likely doesn't know how to access the manual release... Why this hasn't caused a worldwide recall is a mystery to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anivia@feddit.org 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) And if you sit in the rear of a Model X good luck opening the doors even with a manual release permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago* Instructions: remove the speaker grille, locate and pull the mechanical release cable, and then manually push the (really fucking heavy) door open. Vertically. Someone designed that, patted themselves on the back, and thought "that'll work!" Then at least one other person reviewed that design and thought the same. Then multiple people worked on how to implement that design. Likely dozens of people rubber stamped this design. It hurts my brain. In the event of a collision, the model X should just eject its rear doors. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 24 points 8 months ago (1 child) You shouldn't have to read the manual to not fucking die in a car fire. This isn't like some secret mode to let you change what noise the horn makes. This has literally killed people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] someguy3@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) I agree, but seeing pictures of the lever, how do people not look around their car and see what levers and buttons do what? Anyway my story about the manual was just meant as a story about the manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FrederikNJS@sopuli.xyz 18 points 8 months ago (1 child) The rear doors in Teslas don't have any lever to manually release the door. You actually have to take off a piece of trim or the side pocket liner to find a wireloop that you have to pull. The rear passengers in the tesla are rarely the owner of the tesla, which means that they also likely doesn't know how to access the manual release... Why this hasn't caused a worldwide recall is a mystery to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anivia@feddit.org 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) And if you sit in the rear of a Model X good luck opening the doors even with a manual release permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago* Instructions: remove the speaker grille, locate and pull the mechanical release cable, and then manually push the (really fucking heavy) door open. Vertically. Someone designed that, patted themselves on the back, and thought "that'll work!" Then at least one other person reviewed that design and thought the same. Then multiple people worked on how to implement that design. Likely dozens of people rubber stamped this design. It hurts my brain. In the event of a collision, the model X should just eject its rear doors. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) I agree, but seeing pictures of the lever, how do people not look around their car and see what levers and buttons do what? Anyway my story about the manual was just meant as a story about the manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FrederikNJS@sopuli.xyz 18 points 8 months ago (1 child) The rear doors in Teslas don't have any lever to manually release the door. You actually have to take off a piece of trim or the side pocket liner to find a wireloop that you have to pull. The rear passengers in the tesla are rarely the owner of the tesla, which means that they also likely doesn't know how to access the manual release... Why this hasn't caused a worldwide recall is a mystery to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anivia@feddit.org 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) And if you sit in the rear of a Model X good luck opening the doors even with a manual release permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago* Instructions: remove the speaker grille, locate and pull the mechanical release cable, and then manually push the (really fucking heavy) door open. Vertically. Someone designed that, patted themselves on the back, and thought "that'll work!" Then at least one other person reviewed that design and thought the same. Then multiple people worked on how to implement that design. Likely dozens of people rubber stamped this design. It hurts my brain. In the event of a collision, the model X should just eject its rear doors. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FrederikNJS@sopuli.xyz 18 points 8 months ago (1 child) The rear doors in Teslas don't have any lever to manually release the door. You actually have to take off a piece of trim or the side pocket liner to find a wireloop that you have to pull. The rear passengers in the tesla are rarely the owner of the tesla, which means that they also likely doesn't know how to access the manual release... Why this hasn't caused a worldwide recall is a mystery to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anivia@feddit.org 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) And if you sit in the rear of a Model X good luck opening the doors even with a manual release permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago* Instructions: remove the speaker grille, locate and pull the mechanical release cable, and then manually push the (really fucking heavy) door open. Vertically. Someone designed that, patted themselves on the back, and thought "that'll work!" Then at least one other person reviewed that design and thought the same. Then multiple people worked on how to implement that design. Likely dozens of people rubber stamped this design. It hurts my brain. In the event of a collision, the model X should just eject its rear doors. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anivia@feddit.org 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) And if you sit in the rear of a Model X good luck opening the doors even with a manual release permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago* Instructions: remove the speaker grille, locate and pull the mechanical release cable, and then manually push the (really fucking heavy) door open. Vertically. Someone designed that, patted themselves on the back, and thought "that'll work!" Then at least one other person reviewed that design and thought the same. Then multiple people worked on how to implement that design. Likely dozens of people rubber stamped this design. It hurts my brain. In the event of a collision, the model X should just eject its rear doors. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago* Instructions: remove the speaker grille, locate and pull the mechanical release cable, and then manually push the (really fucking heavy) door open. Vertically. Someone designed that, patted themselves on the back, and thought "that'll work!" Then at least one other person reviewed that design and thought the same. Then multiple people worked on how to implement that design. Likely dozens of people rubber stamped this design. It hurts my brain. In the event of a collision, the model X should just eject its rear doors. permalink fedilink source parent