Thanks for clarifying. As much as I love open source, I'll still want something that can offer a similar experience on both desktop and mobile. For anyone else like me, I'd suggest Waterfox.

It was before and during the time of "Anonymous the Hacker known as 4chan".

And yeah, my point was that it was easy to manipulate into being a far-right Nazi hellhole, instead of, you know, a more progressive (but still racist) and libertarian hellhole.

Alternative and progressive used to be more synonymous

Kind of was progressive, issue is that Moot thought it was a good idea to give the nazis their own place, where they begun radicalizing each other, and even planned harassment campaigns.

And even then, a lot of "4chan progressives" only learned the concept of harassment campaigns, which they turned into what many call "cancel culture". I'm not saying that all callouts are bad, but often people don't want to resolve it in private, the "resolve it in private" for the callouter means the other ceases all online presence after a dox threat in private, or at worst it's being used to get rid of an annoying creator they hated. Often all with the old 4chan-style "you can lie a little bit or more as long as you manage to control the narrative" mentality. Not to mention that the right figured out they can manipulate leftists into toxic callout campaigns.

Also if you ever seen a person saying "why don't we give a shitton of antidepressants for gender dysphoria instead of hormones?", that was either a former 4chan progressive, or was influenced by one, since a lot of people who became "mental health positive" due to Project Chanology usually did in a very performative opposition to Scientology's anti-psychiatry.

You're not dumb, I made a bad joke. I could explain the joke over a few paragraphs, but it still won't be funny. In fact, you'd hate it more for having to read that context. Suffice to say, my ADHD internal dialog jumped from idea to idea until I vomited out something that made me chuckle in the moment.

Sorry, your confusion was collateral damage from my mental explosion.

Eh, it's more complicated, it's a Haitian revolutionary and the first emperor of Haiti post-revolution. (Functionally a dictatorship)

He killed most of the remaining colonists, enforced plantation labor, and was overthrown after like 2-3 years, but a lot of haiti now remembers him mostly for abolishing slavery and there's a lot of revisionism or justification for his worse acts.

So like its hard to know what someone who likes him knows / thinks about him.