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Why the real poverty line is $140,000, this strategist argues
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That first number is why birthrates are at historic lows. Plus kids make up part of all the rest of the numbers.
Kids are far too expensive at this point.
It's not ideal.
Who needs kids anyway? I can’t understand why some people want lots of kids, each and everyone of them is a significant long-term effort and responsibility.
Be child free and you could buy a brand new car every year with this poverty line.
The problem is that somebody has to have kids, otherwise we have no more humanity.
If individuals decide they would rather be child free for their own reasons, that's fine. But if capitalism makes everything so expensive that people who want kids can't afford to raise them and never have them in the first place, that is an extinction-level problem
Not just no humanity, but also it collapses almost every system we have economically. If people stop having kids, there won't be anyone to take care of the tasks required to support the aging population.
I see it as a future Dubai, where foreigners with little rights make the whole of the workforce, and are the ones having the kids needed to prop the nation.
It’s a shitty future, but hopefully those migrant families are valued and treated better by democratic countries than the opulent Middle East does.
The only place with projected population growth is Africa, and they're being industrialized too
I mean, maybe we could get the global south to abandon their elderly to take care of ours... That's probably what's going to end up happening if we can't get AI to do it