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[–] 157 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)
  • [–] 81 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Extremely unlikely he survived, that shot severed a carotid artery.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Oh my holy god, fuck, yeah, just watched the vid, jesus fucking christ, there is essentially zero chance he survives that.... oh god.... welp thats enough PTSD trigger s for me today time for ... right I quit cigarrettes... got a vape now... oh...

    ...ok, might be calling it a day for me using the internet today.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Eh, you'd be surprised what people can survive. Check out the goalie that got his throat slit on the ice. Buuuut here's for hope'n.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    That was a clean slice to the throat and the guy was conscious for several moments afterwards. Kirk took a gunshot wound into/through the neck, pretty much all the blood in his head fell out within seconds, and he immediately lost consciousness.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I mean, I despise Kirk as a person...

    ... but I've seen a face transform the way his did, before.

    Oh fuck, (fuck you im having a PTSD attack at the moment) yeah, those ... that total limpness of the body, the slack jaw, the wide open, glazed eyes...

    That is bare minimum, at the least, a massive drop in blood flow and pressure to the brain.

    Brains don't do so good without blood flow for very long.

    Also could easily have severed the spinal cord, shattered vertebrae around the neck.

    Possibly also now he's down a lung.

    I dunno, Stamets said it was a fairly flat trajectory, looked to be a fairly like, straight ahead, from straight in front of him shot....

    I will literally start shaking and crying (and probably screaming and hyperventilating) if I watch more videos / that video again right now, so yeah, 'preliminary analysis'.

    ...

    Sure, sure its maybe technically possible he lives through this, assuming he got bandaged with pressure basically immediately and then also got to an OR within like 15 minutes.

    Otherwise... either dead or basically a mostly brain dead / paralyzed vegetable, would be my guess.

    I am also not a doctor, and am currently having a panic attack, so, grain of salt and all that.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    It’s wild how you transmitted the feeling of having a panic attack in your text

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hah, yeah... more or less just stream of consciousness what i... was actually saying/thinking.

    Like... yeah, really more saying aloud than thinking internally, I had a visceral enough reaction to that that it was all actually spoken.

    As for the formatting / syntax... once upon a time I spent way too much time in various kinds of 'serious' chat based RP... and I sort of invented and internalized my own somewhat unique way of conveying rapidity vs pauses, emphasis and what not.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That guy survived because the medical trainer was a Vietnam vet who shoved his fingers in there to pinch it shut. I don’t see that happening here

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Scott, from Kentucky Ballistics rather famously had a .50 cal explode in his face, a chunk of the gun perforated his neck and went down into his lung, and honestly. He survived and is, outwardly at least, doing pretty well. Stick a thumb in it.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you’re physically up for it, doing a bunch of jumping jacks hits the perfect combination of using up adrenaline and making my lungs hurt to replace emotional smoking. It’s not well received in public though.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If he got emergency medical assistance within seconds of this happening there's a small chance. For better and worse doctors got crazy good at keeping gunshot wounds in the field alive long enough to get surgery during the second Iraq war.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    So former paramedic of many years. First, pretty graphic, no need to watch if you don’t have to. Second, survivable if he got immediate direct pressure and taken right to a trauma unit for blood and surgery. I haven’t seen footage of after the shot, but I’ve seen people immediately begin to bolt, as most people in the US hearing gun fire expect a mass shooting… that’s a lot different then when I was a young dumb medic years ago.

    So if he got direct pressure and was dragged to a vehicle and right to an ER, survivable with probable deficits for the rest of his life.

    I also note we’ve heard zero about a dead or captured gunman.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    There's footage of an older white male being taken into custody. This specific video is sfw, but part of a thread that is not NSFL.

    I removed the video link because it's too easy to click the wrong one. Screenshot:

    Edit- Screenshot also removed now, the University spokesman is reporting the man from video was not the shooter.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    That suspect, the older white male taken into custody, is now being reported as not the shooter.

    I can't give a precise source, hopping through live news streams... I think 'KSL News Specialists', they're on the scene at UVU, got a red and white text overlay, not 100% certain that was the one.

    But if that is correct and accurate, that would mean the actual shooter is currently unknown and at large, obviously 'armed and dangerous'.

    EDIT: Yep, KSL, they just repeated what I said here, original suspect not the shooter, actual shooter would then be at large.

    ALSO: Kirk is dead, literally out of Trump's mouth, bunch of news agencies are running it now too.

    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Anyone got a mirror? Link is already dead.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hooooly fuck I didn't know blood could flow out of a human like that

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I saw a video out of Australia of two big guys trying to beat up a guy who was trying to defend himself with a knife. One of the gets stuck in the neck and dies instantly. It was like watching a real life horror movie.

    The internet is a terrible place

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