▲ 1398 ▼ Megathread: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah Valley University Event (time.com) submitted 1 year ago by jeffw@lemmy.world [M] to c/news@lemmy.world 1483 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 157 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children) Video (NSFNW (Not Safe For Nazi Work)) permalink fedilink source hideshow 27 child comments replies: [–] delgato@sh.itjust.works 129 points 1 year ago (1 child) His last words on this earth, “violence”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 48 points 1 year ago Poetry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 81 points 1 year ago (3 children) Extremely unlikely he survived, that shot severed a carotid artery. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Oh my holy god, fuck, yeah, just watched the vid, jesus fucking christ, there is essentially zero chance he survives that.... oh god.... welp thats enough PTSD trigger s for me today time for ... right I quit cigarrettes... got a vape now... oh... ...ok, might be calling it a day for me using the internet today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (5 children) Eh, you'd be surprised what people can survive. Check out the goalie that got his throat slit on the ice. Buuuut here's for hope'n. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe don't recommend that to them right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago* I appreciate you =] I'm doing a bit better now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago (7 children) That was a clean slice to the throat and the guy was conscious for several moments afterwards. Kirk took a gunshot wound into/through the neck, pretty much all the blood in his head fell out within seconds, and he immediately lost consciousness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago ^ This. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (5 replies) [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I mean, I despise Kirk as a person... ... but I've seen a face transform the way his did, before. Oh fuck, (fuck you im having a PTSD attack at the moment) yeah, those ... that total limpness of the body, the slack jaw, the wide open, glazed eyes... That is bare minimum, at the least, a massive drop in blood flow and pressure to the brain. Brains don't do so good without blood flow for very long. Also could easily have severed the spinal cord, shattered vertebrae around the neck. Possibly also now he's down a lung. I dunno, Stamets said it was a fairly flat trajectory, looked to be a fairly like, straight ahead, from straight in front of him shot.... I will literally start shaking and crying (and probably screaming and hyperventilating) if I watch more videos / that video again right now, so yeah, 'preliminary analysis'. ... Sure, sure its maybe technically possible he lives through this, assuming he got bandaged with pressure basically immediately and then also got to an OR within like 15 minutes. Otherwise... either dead or basically a mostly brain dead / paralyzed vegetable, would be my guess. I am also not a doctor, and am currently having a panic attack, so, grain of salt and all that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corvalanlara@eviltoast.org 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) It’s wild how you transmitted the feeling of having a panic attack in your text permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hah, yeah... more or less just stream of consciousness what i... was actually saying/thinking. Like... yeah, really more saying aloud than thinking internally, I had a visceral enough reaction to that that it was all actually spoken. As for the formatting / syntax... once upon a time I spent way too much time in various kinds of 'serious' chat based RP... and I sort of invented and internalized my own somewhat unique way of conveying rapidity vs pauses, emphasis and what not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] nexas_XIII@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) That guy survived because the medical trainer was a Vietnam vet who shoved his fingers in there to pinch it shut. I don’t see that happening here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Also, skate blade makes a much cleaner cut than a bullet. A lot less collateral damage too. Not to mention whatever the exit wound looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Scott, from Kentucky Ballistics rather famously had a .50 cal explode in his face, a chunk of the gun perforated his neck and went down into his lung, and honestly. He survived and is, outwardly at least, doing pretty well. Stick a thumb in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah but he has the benefit of being a decent human, so people don't actively want him dead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) If you’re physically up for it, doing a bunch of jumping jacks hits the perfect combination of using up adrenaline and making my lungs hurt to replace emotional smoking. It’s not well received in public though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago Hah, I've not heard that, I will try it... ....as soon as I recover from crippling injuries. I got a bunch specific PT excersises though, thats a good idea, just work out through it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children) If he got emergency medical assistance within seconds of this happening there's a small chance. For better and worse doctors got crazy good at keeping gunshot wounds in the field alive long enough to get surgery during the second Iraq war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago Yeah... its more or less all about reaction time, from people with good training and equipment. It sounds stupid and cliche or trope-y but... literally, every second counts. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] Draces@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago You can lose about 2L of blood and I just saw more than that come out of him permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0ops@piefed.zip 51 points 1 year ago Heads up SUPER NSFW permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nougat@fedia.io 48 points 1 year ago (2 children) Yeah, he's done. If you don't want to watch it, just know that it is an anime level of blood loss in a split second. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] Hubi@feddit.org 46 points 1 year ago (2 children) Holy fuck permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah that was bad bad. Jesus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago I was not prepared for how graphic that was permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fenrir@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago Pretty much encapsulates it permalink fedilink source parent [–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 31 points 1 year ago (5 children) So former paramedic of many years. First, pretty graphic, no need to watch if you don’t have to. Second, survivable if he got immediate direct pressure and taken right to a trauma unit for blood and surgery. I haven’t seen footage of after the shot, but I’ve seen people immediately begin to bolt, as most people in the US hearing gun fire expect a mass shooting… that’s a lot different then when I was a young dumb medic years ago. So if he got direct pressure and was dragged to a vehicle and right to an ER, survivable with probable deficits for the rest of his life. I also note we’ve heard zero about a dead or captured gunman. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) There's footage of an older white male being taken into custody. This specific video is sfw, but part of a thread that is not NSFL. I removed the video link because it's too easy to click the wrong one. Screenshot: Edit- Screenshot also removed now, the University spokesman is reporting the man from video was not the shooter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) That suspect, the older white male taken into custody, is now being reported as not the shooter. I can't give a precise source, hopping through live news streams... I think 'KSL News Specialists', they're on the scene at UVU, got a red and white text overlay, not 100% certain that was the one. But if that is correct and accurate, that would mean the actual shooter is currently unknown and at large, obviously 'armed and dangerous'. EDIT: Yep, KSL, they just repeated what I said here, original suspect not the shooter, actual shooter would then be at large. ALSO: Kirk is dead, literally out of Trump's mouth, bunch of news agencies are running it now too. https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) Appreciate the update. Guess we'll see what shakes out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) ....got more updates in the previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [+] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (4 replies) [–] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Please extra NSFW for graphical violence. (Video is from close distance) permalink fedilink source parent [–] rozodru@piefed.social 21 points 1 year ago Ok, I don't condone this but....that was a pretty good shot. permalink fedilink source parent [+] mcbenavides85@piefed.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (3 children) Anyone got a mirror? Link is already dead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Try this (also NSFW) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago That one worked for me, although I kinda wish it hadn't. Holy fuck. Rest in piss Charlie. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CerineArkweaver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hooooly fuck I didn't know blood could flow out of a human like that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago I saw a video out of Australia of two big guys trying to beat up a guy who was trying to defend himself with a knife. One of the gets stuck in the neck and dies instantly. It was like watching a real life horror movie. The internet is a terrible place permalink fedilink source parent [–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) You saw less than a coke bottle of blood, I’ve seen much worse and seen people survive. The key is quickly stopping/slowing the bleeding, getting to blood products to replace the loss, getting to surgery to fix the hole. The long wars in the middle east actually taught us a lot about fixing this kind of stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why did you write "not NSFW"?? Thats very much NSFW... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago Thanks, this one works. It's graphic, though sadly I've seen worse videos when combat footage from Ukraine was first coming out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 14 points 1 year ago I just checked, it's still up. The link that is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago Still works for me permalink fedilink source parent [–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago Wow, that’s a dead nazi permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (5 replies)
[–] delgato@sh.itjust.works 129 points 1 year ago (1 child) His last words on this earth, “violence”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 48 points 1 year ago Poetry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 81 points 1 year ago (3 children) Extremely unlikely he survived, that shot severed a carotid artery. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Oh my holy god, fuck, yeah, just watched the vid, jesus fucking christ, there is essentially zero chance he survives that.... oh god.... welp thats enough PTSD trigger s for me today time for ... right I quit cigarrettes... got a vape now... oh... ...ok, might be calling it a day for me using the internet today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (5 children) Eh, you'd be surprised what people can survive. Check out the goalie that got his throat slit on the ice. Buuuut here's for hope'n. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe don't recommend that to them right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago* I appreciate you =] I'm doing a bit better now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago (7 children) That was a clean slice to the throat and the guy was conscious for several moments afterwards. Kirk took a gunshot wound into/through the neck, pretty much all the blood in his head fell out within seconds, and he immediately lost consciousness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago ^ This. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (5 replies) [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I mean, I despise Kirk as a person... ... but I've seen a face transform the way his did, before. Oh fuck, (fuck you im having a PTSD attack at the moment) yeah, those ... that total limpness of the body, the slack jaw, the wide open, glazed eyes... That is bare minimum, at the least, a massive drop in blood flow and pressure to the brain. Brains don't do so good without blood flow for very long. Also could easily have severed the spinal cord, shattered vertebrae around the neck. Possibly also now he's down a lung. I dunno, Stamets said it was a fairly flat trajectory, looked to be a fairly like, straight ahead, from straight in front of him shot.... I will literally start shaking and crying (and probably screaming and hyperventilating) if I watch more videos / that video again right now, so yeah, 'preliminary analysis'. ... Sure, sure its maybe technically possible he lives through this, assuming he got bandaged with pressure basically immediately and then also got to an OR within like 15 minutes. Otherwise... either dead or basically a mostly brain dead / paralyzed vegetable, would be my guess. I am also not a doctor, and am currently having a panic attack, so, grain of salt and all that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corvalanlara@eviltoast.org 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) It’s wild how you transmitted the feeling of having a panic attack in your text permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hah, yeah... more or less just stream of consciousness what i... was actually saying/thinking. Like... yeah, really more saying aloud than thinking internally, I had a visceral enough reaction to that that it was all actually spoken. As for the formatting / syntax... once upon a time I spent way too much time in various kinds of 'serious' chat based RP... and I sort of invented and internalized my own somewhat unique way of conveying rapidity vs pauses, emphasis and what not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] nexas_XIII@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) That guy survived because the medical trainer was a Vietnam vet who shoved his fingers in there to pinch it shut. I don’t see that happening here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Also, skate blade makes a much cleaner cut than a bullet. A lot less collateral damage too. Not to mention whatever the exit wound looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Scott, from Kentucky Ballistics rather famously had a .50 cal explode in his face, a chunk of the gun perforated his neck and went down into his lung, and honestly. He survived and is, outwardly at least, doing pretty well. Stick a thumb in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah but he has the benefit of being a decent human, so people don't actively want him dead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) If you’re physically up for it, doing a bunch of jumping jacks hits the perfect combination of using up adrenaline and making my lungs hurt to replace emotional smoking. It’s not well received in public though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago Hah, I've not heard that, I will try it... ....as soon as I recover from crippling injuries. I got a bunch specific PT excersises though, thats a good idea, just work out through it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children) If he got emergency medical assistance within seconds of this happening there's a small chance. For better and worse doctors got crazy good at keeping gunshot wounds in the field alive long enough to get surgery during the second Iraq war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago Yeah... its more or less all about reaction time, from people with good training and equipment. It sounds stupid and cliche or trope-y but... literally, every second counts. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] Draces@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago You can lose about 2L of blood and I just saw more than that come out of him permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Oh my holy god, fuck, yeah, just watched the vid, jesus fucking christ, there is essentially zero chance he survives that.... oh god.... welp thats enough PTSD trigger s for me today time for ... right I quit cigarrettes... got a vape now... oh... ...ok, might be calling it a day for me using the internet today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (5 children) Eh, you'd be surprised what people can survive. Check out the goalie that got his throat slit on the ice. Buuuut here's for hope'n. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe don't recommend that to them right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago* I appreciate you =] I'm doing a bit better now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago (7 children) That was a clean slice to the throat and the guy was conscious for several moments afterwards. Kirk took a gunshot wound into/through the neck, pretty much all the blood in his head fell out within seconds, and he immediately lost consciousness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago ^ This. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (5 replies) [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I mean, I despise Kirk as a person... ... but I've seen a face transform the way his did, before. Oh fuck, (fuck you im having a PTSD attack at the moment) yeah, those ... that total limpness of the body, the slack jaw, the wide open, glazed eyes... That is bare minimum, at the least, a massive drop in blood flow and pressure to the brain. Brains don't do so good without blood flow for very long. Also could easily have severed the spinal cord, shattered vertebrae around the neck. Possibly also now he's down a lung. I dunno, Stamets said it was a fairly flat trajectory, looked to be a fairly like, straight ahead, from straight in front of him shot.... I will literally start shaking and crying (and probably screaming and hyperventilating) if I watch more videos / that video again right now, so yeah, 'preliminary analysis'. ... Sure, sure its maybe technically possible he lives through this, assuming he got bandaged with pressure basically immediately and then also got to an OR within like 15 minutes. Otherwise... either dead or basically a mostly brain dead / paralyzed vegetable, would be my guess. I am also not a doctor, and am currently having a panic attack, so, grain of salt and all that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corvalanlara@eviltoast.org 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) It’s wild how you transmitted the feeling of having a panic attack in your text permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hah, yeah... more or less just stream of consciousness what i... was actually saying/thinking. Like... yeah, really more saying aloud than thinking internally, I had a visceral enough reaction to that that it was all actually spoken. As for the formatting / syntax... once upon a time I spent way too much time in various kinds of 'serious' chat based RP... and I sort of invented and internalized my own somewhat unique way of conveying rapidity vs pauses, emphasis and what not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] nexas_XIII@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) That guy survived because the medical trainer was a Vietnam vet who shoved his fingers in there to pinch it shut. I don’t see that happening here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Also, skate blade makes a much cleaner cut than a bullet. A lot less collateral damage too. Not to mention whatever the exit wound looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Scott, from Kentucky Ballistics rather famously had a .50 cal explode in his face, a chunk of the gun perforated his neck and went down into his lung, and honestly. He survived and is, outwardly at least, doing pretty well. Stick a thumb in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah but he has the benefit of being a decent human, so people don't actively want him dead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) If you’re physically up for it, doing a bunch of jumping jacks hits the perfect combination of using up adrenaline and making my lungs hurt to replace emotional smoking. It’s not well received in public though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago Hah, I've not heard that, I will try it... ....as soon as I recover from crippling injuries. I got a bunch specific PT excersises though, thats a good idea, just work out through it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (5 children) Eh, you'd be surprised what people can survive. Check out the goalie that got his throat slit on the ice. Buuuut here's for hope'n. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe don't recommend that to them right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago* I appreciate you =] I'm doing a bit better now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago (7 children) That was a clean slice to the throat and the guy was conscious for several moments afterwards. Kirk took a gunshot wound into/through the neck, pretty much all the blood in his head fell out within seconds, and he immediately lost consciousness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago ^ This. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (5 replies) [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I mean, I despise Kirk as a person... ... but I've seen a face transform the way his did, before. Oh fuck, (fuck you im having a PTSD attack at the moment) yeah, those ... that total limpness of the body, the slack jaw, the wide open, glazed eyes... That is bare minimum, at the least, a massive drop in blood flow and pressure to the brain. Brains don't do so good without blood flow for very long. Also could easily have severed the spinal cord, shattered vertebrae around the neck. Possibly also now he's down a lung. I dunno, Stamets said it was a fairly flat trajectory, looked to be a fairly like, straight ahead, from straight in front of him shot.... I will literally start shaking and crying (and probably screaming and hyperventilating) if I watch more videos / that video again right now, so yeah, 'preliminary analysis'. ... Sure, sure its maybe technically possible he lives through this, assuming he got bandaged with pressure basically immediately and then also got to an OR within like 15 minutes. Otherwise... either dead or basically a mostly brain dead / paralyzed vegetable, would be my guess. I am also not a doctor, and am currently having a panic attack, so, grain of salt and all that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corvalanlara@eviltoast.org 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) It’s wild how you transmitted the feeling of having a panic attack in your text permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hah, yeah... more or less just stream of consciousness what i... was actually saying/thinking. Like... yeah, really more saying aloud than thinking internally, I had a visceral enough reaction to that that it was all actually spoken. As for the formatting / syntax... once upon a time I spent way too much time in various kinds of 'serious' chat based RP... and I sort of invented and internalized my own somewhat unique way of conveying rapidity vs pauses, emphasis and what not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] nexas_XIII@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) That guy survived because the medical trainer was a Vietnam vet who shoved his fingers in there to pinch it shut. I don’t see that happening here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Also, skate blade makes a much cleaner cut than a bullet. A lot less collateral damage too. Not to mention whatever the exit wound looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Scott, from Kentucky Ballistics rather famously had a .50 cal explode in his face, a chunk of the gun perforated his neck and went down into his lung, and honestly. He survived and is, outwardly at least, doing pretty well. Stick a thumb in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah but he has the benefit of being a decent human, so people don't actively want him dead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe don't recommend that to them right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago* I appreciate you =] I'm doing a bit better now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago* I appreciate you =] I'm doing a bit better now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago (7 children) That was a clean slice to the throat and the guy was conscious for several moments afterwards. Kirk took a gunshot wound into/through the neck, pretty much all the blood in his head fell out within seconds, and he immediately lost consciousness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago ^ This. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (5 replies)
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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I mean, I despise Kirk as a person... ... but I've seen a face transform the way his did, before. Oh fuck, (fuck you im having a PTSD attack at the moment) yeah, those ... that total limpness of the body, the slack jaw, the wide open, glazed eyes... That is bare minimum, at the least, a massive drop in blood flow and pressure to the brain. Brains don't do so good without blood flow for very long. Also could easily have severed the spinal cord, shattered vertebrae around the neck. Possibly also now he's down a lung. I dunno, Stamets said it was a fairly flat trajectory, looked to be a fairly like, straight ahead, from straight in front of him shot.... I will literally start shaking and crying (and probably screaming and hyperventilating) if I watch more videos / that video again right now, so yeah, 'preliminary analysis'. ... Sure, sure its maybe technically possible he lives through this, assuming he got bandaged with pressure basically immediately and then also got to an OR within like 15 minutes. Otherwise... either dead or basically a mostly brain dead / paralyzed vegetable, would be my guess. I am also not a doctor, and am currently having a panic attack, so, grain of salt and all that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corvalanlara@eviltoast.org 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) It’s wild how you transmitted the feeling of having a panic attack in your text permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hah, yeah... more or less just stream of consciousness what i... was actually saying/thinking. Like... yeah, really more saying aloud than thinking internally, I had a visceral enough reaction to that that it was all actually spoken. As for the formatting / syntax... once upon a time I spent way too much time in various kinds of 'serious' chat based RP... and I sort of invented and internalized my own somewhat unique way of conveying rapidity vs pauses, emphasis and what not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[–] corvalanlara@eviltoast.org 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) It’s wild how you transmitted the feeling of having a panic attack in your text permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hah, yeah... more or less just stream of consciousness what i... was actually saying/thinking. Like... yeah, really more saying aloud than thinking internally, I had a visceral enough reaction to that that it was all actually spoken. As for the formatting / syntax... once upon a time I spent way too much time in various kinds of 'serious' chat based RP... and I sort of invented and internalized my own somewhat unique way of conveying rapidity vs pauses, emphasis and what not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hah, yeah... more or less just stream of consciousness what i... was actually saying/thinking. Like... yeah, really more saying aloud than thinking internally, I had a visceral enough reaction to that that it was all actually spoken. As for the formatting / syntax... once upon a time I spent way too much time in various kinds of 'serious' chat based RP... and I sort of invented and internalized my own somewhat unique way of conveying rapidity vs pauses, emphasis and what not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[–] nexas_XIII@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) That guy survived because the medical trainer was a Vietnam vet who shoved his fingers in there to pinch it shut. I don’t see that happening here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Also, skate blade makes a much cleaner cut than a bullet. A lot less collateral damage too. Not to mention whatever the exit wound looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Also, skate blade makes a much cleaner cut than a bullet. A lot less collateral damage too. Not to mention whatever the exit wound looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Scott, from Kentucky Ballistics rather famously had a .50 cal explode in his face, a chunk of the gun perforated his neck and went down into his lung, and honestly. He survived and is, outwardly at least, doing pretty well. Stick a thumb in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah but he has the benefit of being a decent human, so people don't actively want him dead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah but he has the benefit of being a decent human, so people don't actively want him dead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) If you’re physically up for it, doing a bunch of jumping jacks hits the perfect combination of using up adrenaline and making my lungs hurt to replace emotional smoking. It’s not well received in public though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago Hah, I've not heard that, I will try it... ....as soon as I recover from crippling injuries. I got a bunch specific PT excersises though, thats a good idea, just work out through it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago Hah, I've not heard that, I will try it... ....as soon as I recover from crippling injuries. I got a bunch specific PT excersises though, thats a good idea, just work out through it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children) If he got emergency medical assistance within seconds of this happening there's a small chance. For better and worse doctors got crazy good at keeping gunshot wounds in the field alive long enough to get surgery during the second Iraq war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago Yeah... its more or less all about reaction time, from people with good training and equipment. It sounds stupid and cliche or trope-y but... literally, every second counts. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago Yeah... its more or less all about reaction time, from people with good training and equipment. It sounds stupid and cliche or trope-y but... literally, every second counts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Draces@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago You can lose about 2L of blood and I just saw more than that come out of him permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nougat@fedia.io 48 points 1 year ago (2 children) Yeah, he's done. If you don't want to watch it, just know that it is an anime level of blood loss in a split second. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Hubi@feddit.org 46 points 1 year ago (2 children) Holy fuck permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah that was bad bad. Jesus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago I was not prepared for how graphic that was permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fenrir@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago Pretty much encapsulates it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah that was bad bad. Jesus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago I was not prepared for how graphic that was permalink fedilink source parent
[–] compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago I was not prepared for how graphic that was permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fenrir@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago Pretty much encapsulates it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 31 points 1 year ago (5 children) So former paramedic of many years. First, pretty graphic, no need to watch if you don’t have to. Second, survivable if he got immediate direct pressure and taken right to a trauma unit for blood and surgery. I haven’t seen footage of after the shot, but I’ve seen people immediately begin to bolt, as most people in the US hearing gun fire expect a mass shooting… that’s a lot different then when I was a young dumb medic years ago. So if he got direct pressure and was dragged to a vehicle and right to an ER, survivable with probable deficits for the rest of his life. I also note we’ve heard zero about a dead or captured gunman. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) There's footage of an older white male being taken into custody. This specific video is sfw, but part of a thread that is not NSFL. I removed the video link because it's too easy to click the wrong one. Screenshot: Edit- Screenshot also removed now, the University spokesman is reporting the man from video was not the shooter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) That suspect, the older white male taken into custody, is now being reported as not the shooter. I can't give a precise source, hopping through live news streams... I think 'KSL News Specialists', they're on the scene at UVU, got a red and white text overlay, not 100% certain that was the one. But if that is correct and accurate, that would mean the actual shooter is currently unknown and at large, obviously 'armed and dangerous'. EDIT: Yep, KSL, they just repeated what I said here, original suspect not the shooter, actual shooter would then be at large. ALSO: Kirk is dead, literally out of Trump's mouth, bunch of news agencies are running it now too. https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) Appreciate the update. Guess we'll see what shakes out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) ....got more updates in the previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [+] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (4 replies)
[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) There's footage of an older white male being taken into custody. This specific video is sfw, but part of a thread that is not NSFL. I removed the video link because it's too easy to click the wrong one. Screenshot: Edit- Screenshot also removed now, the University spokesman is reporting the man from video was not the shooter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) That suspect, the older white male taken into custody, is now being reported as not the shooter. I can't give a precise source, hopping through live news streams... I think 'KSL News Specialists', they're on the scene at UVU, got a red and white text overlay, not 100% certain that was the one. But if that is correct and accurate, that would mean the actual shooter is currently unknown and at large, obviously 'armed and dangerous'. EDIT: Yep, KSL, they just repeated what I said here, original suspect not the shooter, actual shooter would then be at large. ALSO: Kirk is dead, literally out of Trump's mouth, bunch of news agencies are running it now too. https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) Appreciate the update. Guess we'll see what shakes out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) ....got more updates in the previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [+] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) That suspect, the older white male taken into custody, is now being reported as not the shooter. I can't give a precise source, hopping through live news streams... I think 'KSL News Specialists', they're on the scene at UVU, got a red and white text overlay, not 100% certain that was the one. But if that is correct and accurate, that would mean the actual shooter is currently unknown and at large, obviously 'armed and dangerous'. EDIT: Yep, KSL, they just repeated what I said here, original suspect not the shooter, actual shooter would then be at large. ALSO: Kirk is dead, literally out of Trump's mouth, bunch of news agencies are running it now too. https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) Appreciate the update. Guess we'll see what shakes out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) ....got more updates in the previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) Appreciate the update. Guess we'll see what shakes out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) ....got more updates in the previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) ....got more updates in the previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Please extra NSFW for graphical violence. (Video is from close distance) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rozodru@piefed.social 21 points 1 year ago Ok, I don't condone this but....that was a pretty good shot. permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (3 children) Anyone got a mirror? Link is already dead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Try this (also NSFW) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago That one worked for me, although I kinda wish it hadn't. Holy fuck. Rest in piss Charlie. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CerineArkweaver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hooooly fuck I didn't know blood could flow out of a human like that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago I saw a video out of Australia of two big guys trying to beat up a guy who was trying to defend himself with a knife. One of the gets stuck in the neck and dies instantly. It was like watching a real life horror movie. The internet is a terrible place permalink fedilink source parent [–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) You saw less than a coke bottle of blood, I’ve seen much worse and seen people survive. The key is quickly stopping/slowing the bleeding, getting to blood products to replace the loss, getting to surgery to fix the hole. The long wars in the middle east actually taught us a lot about fixing this kind of stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why did you write "not NSFW"?? Thats very much NSFW... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago Thanks, this one works. It's graphic, though sadly I've seen worse videos when combat footage from Ukraine was first coming out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 14 points 1 year ago I just checked, it's still up. The link that is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago Still works for me permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Try this (also NSFW) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago That one worked for me, although I kinda wish it hadn't. Holy fuck. Rest in piss Charlie. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CerineArkweaver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hooooly fuck I didn't know blood could flow out of a human like that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago I saw a video out of Australia of two big guys trying to beat up a guy who was trying to defend himself with a knife. One of the gets stuck in the neck and dies instantly. It was like watching a real life horror movie. The internet is a terrible place permalink fedilink source parent [–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) You saw less than a coke bottle of blood, I’ve seen much worse and seen people survive. The key is quickly stopping/slowing the bleeding, getting to blood products to replace the loss, getting to surgery to fix the hole. The long wars in the middle east actually taught us a lot about fixing this kind of stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why did you write "not NSFW"?? Thats very much NSFW... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago Thanks, this one works. It's graphic, though sadly I've seen worse videos when combat footage from Ukraine was first coming out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago That one worked for me, although I kinda wish it hadn't. Holy fuck. Rest in piss Charlie. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CerineArkweaver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hooooly fuck I didn't know blood could flow out of a human like that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago I saw a video out of Australia of two big guys trying to beat up a guy who was trying to defend himself with a knife. One of the gets stuck in the neck and dies instantly. It was like watching a real life horror movie. The internet is a terrible place permalink fedilink source parent [–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) You saw less than a coke bottle of blood, I’ve seen much worse and seen people survive. The key is quickly stopping/slowing the bleeding, getting to blood products to replace the loss, getting to surgery to fix the hole. The long wars in the middle east actually taught us a lot about fixing this kind of stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago I saw a video out of Australia of two big guys trying to beat up a guy who was trying to defend himself with a knife. One of the gets stuck in the neck and dies instantly. It was like watching a real life horror movie. The internet is a terrible place permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) You saw less than a coke bottle of blood, I’ve seen much worse and seen people survive. The key is quickly stopping/slowing the bleeding, getting to blood products to replace the loss, getting to surgery to fix the hole. The long wars in the middle east actually taught us a lot about fixing this kind of stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why did you write "not NSFW"?? Thats very much NSFW... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago Thanks, this one works. It's graphic, though sadly I've seen worse videos when combat footage from Ukraine was first coming out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 14 points 1 year ago I just checked, it's still up. The link that is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago Wow, that’s a dead nazi permalink fedilink source parent