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My friend made me install Bumble. I want something that leftists will recognize but that won't immediately scare off liberals (I can fix them)

Does anyone have any cool Lenin quotes for this purpose or something

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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Weird, but then why Wikipedia says "Mao's policies were responsible for vast numbers of deaths, with estimates ranging from 40 to 80 million victims due to starvation" ? ๐Ÿคท EDIT : Oops didn't realize on which instance I was, sorry.

[โ€“] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For context, tens of millions of people being wiped out by famine was something that happened every couple of decades in China. What makes the famine under Mao notable was that it was the last famine China ever had, thanks in large part to the comprehensive revolution mentioned above, which allowed the state to pursue long term policies that benefitted the whole society instead of the wealthy class

[โ€“] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago

Famines on this scale were relatively normal in China and a mainstay of the Chinese Empire's boom and bust cycles, as well as ecological catastrophe spreading thin the fragile bureaucracy. Only one government in China has been shown to be able to decisively end famine since, and it's the same one that eradicated absolute poverty. Hope that helps!

[โ€“] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

weird, I actually read the opposite if you look here

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the very thorough response

[โ€“] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

you are very welcome, always glad to correct misconceptions like this stalin heart hands

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[โ€“] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

I love counting unborn people in my death rates spongebob-i-fucking-love

[โ€“] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you used the same metric to quantify the deaths during the Great Depression in the United States, you would end up with a death toll of 11 million