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[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Fun fact: two distinct events from 1969 and 1976 might not accurately represent the Left in 2025.

For one thing, everyone who participated in those atrocious acts are elderly or dead now. Most of the Left are neither.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

I do think that most of the left wing people that ever lived are dead.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

That's very very true. However, none of the current Left is.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

That is also very true.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fun fact: two distinct events from 1969 and 1976 might not accurately represent the Left in 2025.

I never said they did. But they demonstrate that we can't just assume that people aren't antisemitic just because they are left(-leaning). Unless of course you don't want to learn from history.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I never said they did.

You very heavily implied it, though.

But they demonstrate that we can't just assume that people aren't antisemitic just because they are left(-leaning)

Sure. Just like we can't assume that people from Nepal don't pollute. It's not the norm or even something of heightened risk compared to other demographics.

Unless of course you don't want to learn from history.

That's rich coming from someone trying his best to leap to illogical conclusions based on two events that are specifically remarkable for being atypical.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

"No true leftist is antisemitic."

(Presents several clear counterexamples)

"Well, that's the exception. They are not true leftists!"

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

If the argument that being antisemitic precludes you from being a leftist, that's not a fallacy. If you don't abide by a set of beliefs, then you are not a follower of those beliefs.

I'm not a Scotsman because I'm not from Scotland.

Similarly, I don't think most libertarians are true libertarians because they don't care about liberties except their own. And if that's the definition of libertarian, then everyone is a libertarian.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The mortal enemy of the true scotsman argument: words mean things.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"No true leftist is antisemitic."

A strawman inventing a no true Scotsman? That's impressively fallacious 😄

I didn't and indeed have never claimed that there aren't any antisemites on the Left. Unfortunately, a lot of people on the Left are starting from the point of "the country (incorrectly) claiming to be representative of all Jewdom has been committing unspeakable atrocities for a century" and being misled from there down rabbit holes that sometimes go all the way to ACTUALLY antisemitic conspiracy theory nonsense.

That being said, those people are a tiny minority, and your two examples from the days of disco and earlier don't prove otherwise.

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