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[-] [email protected] 113 points 3 days ago

They had pistols though. The first aerial combat engagements were fought with pistols.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/air-space-magazine/first-aerial-combat-victory-180952933/

[-] [email protected] 70 points 3 days ago

They would also carry a little basket of hand grenades sometimes, and toss them out of the airplane to fall on any troops they saw down below.

It was a fucking wild time lol. No radios, open cockpit, no artificial horizon. If you flew into a cloud you just lost your orientation and fell out of the sky and died. They just went up there.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Didn't you need like a fraction of training to become a pilot? Also imagine running into birds or bad weather, rain would probably feel like a soft top car at best

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It also was the era where the pilots of some types of combat aircraft suffered more losses in training accidents than in actual combat. While they were fighting a world war.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Crazy Icarians, biting their thumb at the gods

[-] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I also like the bonkers phase between the "just take a gun with you" era and the synchronizing gears. Seems to have boiled down to three or four ideas:

  1. Pusher prop and/or an extra 150 pounds of human to work a turret.
  2. Hope you don't completely destroy your propeller before you defeat or fend off your opponent.
  3. Slap some armor on it, then proceed with plan #2 with somewhat more hope, though now with the possibility of richochets.
  4. Mount a bizarre triangle thing to the back of it that will deflect the bullets in a somewhat less suicidal manner than simple metal plates.
[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

We also had:
5. Stick it on top of the wing, firing roughly forwards and hope for the best (Nieuport Scouts)
6. Mount it on the side of the cockpit at a jaunty angle, shooting outwards diagonally away from the propellor, and attack the enemy diagonally, like you're a pawn on a chess board (Bristol Scout)

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

That does make a lot more sense than my brainfart of plane jousting...

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Well, actually...

On September 7 [1914], Russian Pyotr Nesterov was the first pilot to destroy an enemy airplane, but he did it by ramming his Morane into an Austrian Albatros. Both air crews died as a result.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

So the first kill was a type of Kamikaze? Surprisingly unchivalrous for what I’ve read about early military aviation.

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