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[–] [email protected] 140 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

they all got more money for rich people. did any of them impose term limits, stop insider training, or impose any meaningful penalties for those that already have a lot of wealth? they got wealthier and so did all around.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

They literally didn't, though. Clinton obtained surplus by raising taxes and by removing several caps which benefitted the wealthy.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_Bill_Clinton_administration

President Clinton oversaw a healthy economy during his tenure. The U.S. had strong economic growth (around 4% annually) and record job creation (22.7 million). He raised taxes on higher income taxpayers early in his first term and cut defense spending and welfare, which contributed to a rise in revenue and decline in spending relative to the size of the economy. These factors helped bring the United States federal budget into surplus from fiscal years 1998 to 2001

raising taxes on the wealthiest 1.2% of Americans.[5] It also imposed a new energy tax on all Americans and subjected about a quarter of those receiving Social Security payments to higher taxes on their benefits.

The 28% rate for capital gains was lowered to 20%. The 15% rate was lowered to 10%. In 1980, a tax credit was put into place based on the number of individuals under the age of 17 in a household. In 1998, it was $400 per child and in 1999, it was raised to $500. This Act removed from taxation profits on the sale of a house of up to $500,000 for individuals who are married, and $250,000 for single individuals. Educational savings and retirement funds were given tax relief. Some of the expiring tax provisions were extended for selected businesses.

Clinton signed the bipartisan Financial Services Modernization Act or GLBA in 1999.[41] It allowed banks, insurance companies and investment houses to merge and thus repealed the Glass-Steagall Act which had been in place since 1932. It also prevented further regulation of risky financial derivatives. His deregulation of finance (both tacit and overt through GLBA) was criticized as a contributing factor to the Great Recession.[citation needed] While he disputes that claim, he expressed regret and conceded that in hindsight he would have vetoed the bill, mainly because it excluded risky financial derivatives from regulation, not because it removed the long-standing Glass-Steagall barrier between investment and depository banking. In his view, even if he had vetoed the bill, the Congress would have overridden the veto, as it had nearly unanimous support.[2]

What Clinton did was disadvantage income against capital gains further, thus preventing more people from the middle class and upper middle class to become rich through work, while making it easier for rich people to become even richer. Add to that the deregulation of banks so more "too big to fail" casino players could play in a more deregulated casino which then needed to be bailed out a few years later. By slashing and taxing social security benefits he also made it so that less people could lift themselves out of poverty, which would not only lead to more poverty but also increase spending long term as people kept relying on insufficient benefits instead of getting the means to gain self sustainability and subsequently contribute more to taxes than they needed in temporary aid.

tldr: Clinton fucked the poor and middle class and benefited the rich. He just was more clever about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

He raised the taxes on the highest bracket 7% and remove caps on several taxes that they pay into.

He definitely could have done better but he absolutely wasn't the friend of the rich.

That's just it, to prove your point you dont need to show he fucked over the poor, you need to show he helped the rich, and it simply is not there.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 16 hours ago

And cutting the social safety net.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Nope, they all deregulated, supported monopolies & tax loopholes.

... all while the core infrastructure (healthcare, transit systems, tax systems, education, housing, etc) withered away by design.

Not to mention the massive bail-outs via blank no-strings attached checks (if a gov has to give monies to a private company that usually means shareholders lose their value, but not in the USA, they just get free monies).

And ofc war profiteering (& constantly killing some of the poorest civilians on the planet).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

What about Sanders? How about Warren?

We need congressional primary attendance to break 15% before we get to complain about term limits. If you don’t show up when you have a say, then you are responsible for the career politicians.

We should be voting twice every two years, not once every four, for federal elections alone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I hope you're aware that Sanders was never president. But also that he's not a democra, which folks sometimes forget.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

They’re asking about enacting term limits. There is a presidential term limit, so I assumed they were talking about Congress.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

neither were president or are in this picture? so what about them?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You asked about creating term limits. There are limits on presidential terms, so I assumed you meant congressional term limits. No? Am I missing your point?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

the OP posted Pic about presidents. my comment was did any of those presidents introduce term limits on congress or SCOTUS, etc.

I'd have loved Warren or Sanders, but neither were president.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Term limits would require legislation written by Congress. They cannot be implemented by POTUS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure an executive order or thirty would have sufficed in leau of proper legislation.

see: current administration

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Executive orders can just be repealed by the next administration. The most it could possibly affect is one House term.