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There is nothing inaccurate about stating poison is poison. You're arguing the poison will not have an effect. That does not mean anything about its chemical structure or toxic properties have changed.
There is a reason the LD50 is listed. It shows a what concentration will kill a species of animal, usually mice. This is not entire analogous to humans but we accept this is the only practice that is maybe acceptable.
We do not test on humans and there is no blind study to show there are no longterm effects of consuming trace amounts of chlorine in water.
It's quite inaccurate to say that "poison is poison", because it's entirely a matter of the effect it has in the body. Is water poisonous? It doesn't take a huge amount to disrupt bodily functions and kill you. Ironically for the conversation, one of the key things disrupted by water poisoning is the balance of chlorine ions in nerves.
So is water poisonous even though we rarely consume it in toxic amounts?
Is chlorine not poisonous because we require a quantity of it to live?
Or, maybe, poison is better used for a substance that is or will cause disruption to functions if introduced to the body. A glass of water isn't poisonous, but a 5 gallon jug is. A full fox glove plant is poisonous, but a trace of the digitalis it contains is medicine.
I'm not sure why we would need a blind study of chlorine in water. We can just look at aggregate health trends in several populations. A blind is necessary when researchers are performing an intervention, but if you're not intervening you don't need one, just a way to deal with possible confounding variables. A typical one is "observational populations large enough to cover almost all variables", like you get by looking at population aggregated health data across entire countries.
It how we gauge the effectiveness of things like flossing and brushing your teeth where it's considered unethical to require a subject to forgo a procedure believed to be beneficial. It's not like you learn nothing just because your methodology didn't eliminate every confounder.
Again, you're talking about a dilution. Is a glass of water with trace amount of chlorine, chlorine?
I'd gladly review any study, that you're aware of, that states there are no longer term effects of drinking trace amounts of chlorine. That is, since it's such a walk in the park to do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxicity
Maybe reading it somewhere else will help you get it.
Yes, lower concentrations of a poison make it not a poison.
Do you think pure water is toxic because it can kill you if you drink too much?
https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2015-09/documents/dwchloramine.pdf
https://www.epa.gov/dwreginfo/related-research-chloramines-drinking-water
That's from just basic googling, so yeah, I'd say it's pretty easy to find at least moderately compelling evidence.
Don't forget some studies on the benefits:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15782893/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10176376/
As well as on general chlorine safety: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK598756/
From the first link:
Have you looked through the second link? It's all about EPA methods. If I felt further discussion with you might be productive I might investigate some of the citations. I just think you're accusing me of one thing and I'm saying something entirely different.
Are you suggesting chlorine is actually good for you, not that it has antibacterial properties that makes the water safer for consumption?
I'll skip the chlorine safety stuff because I asked for a study.
As far as the toxicity stuff I'm not concerned because you're still talking about concentration (see. Dilution).
If you had any tact you would understand that I'm not trying to say chlorine is unsafe for human consumption I'm saying that the goal of science isn't to determine every possible outcome of consuming it.
Anyway. You'll just have disregard me because we aren't communicating on the same level.
Tact? I've been extremely tactful you twit. You've been obtuse the the point of incredulity.
Yes, I sent a collection of EPA references. Who do you think oversaw most of the studies?
My entire point has been the toxicity issue which you seem incapable of understanding. You'll have to forgive me for invoking the chlorine issue so much, since you started this whole thing with implying I drink pool water and saying that "poison is poison" in contradiction to "dosage matters".
You still haven't answered me. If a toxic substance is toxic no matter what, "poison is poison", would you consider water to be a poison?
Clearly.
What studies? Just fucking link them.
Go on, now. Cya.