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submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

I know there’s great love for Oblivion (I never played it when it was new), and of course Skyrim is the gold standard for new fans (I played the shit out of that and it was my first entry into the elder scrolls back when it came out 14 years ago…) but I really feel like this shadow drop of a half assed remake is just priming everyone to lower their expectations for the likely dumpster fire that is The Elder Scrolls VI.

I know its old hat nonsense of a complaint but whatever Bethesda used to be it stopped being that 20 years ago and we’re all just stuck thinking they’ll put out some new masterpiece when in reality all the talent they had back in the day has likely left for other jobs and they are now just a shitty company among countless other shitty companies putting profit over anything else and stifling anyone who might actually have good ideas on how to make good games (how unsurprising).

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[-] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago

It might be nostalgia speaking, but I think the real issue is that a 20 year old game can actually be this good and popular. How can it be that it is more enjoyable than anything else I’ve bought over the last year (at least)? Doesn’t that say that game companies in general have dropped the ball on game design, focusing on graphics and money over content and gameplay? As I said, it might just be me stuck in my wonderfully comforting blanket of nostalgia…

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I think it's almost definitely nostalgia speaking.

Granted, by the point Oblivion was made I was the nostalgia guy talking about how Bethesda games kept getting smaller and less ambitious. Most people saying that then did so because they were coming from Morrowind. Not me, I am a proper dinosaur and I was just pissed that after Morrowind dropped everything interesting about Daggerfall to make a console game they just kept moving further in that direction.

Was also not a fan of Fallout getting turned into Oblivion 40K instead of a proper turn-based CRPG.

Which goes to show this conversation isn't new and gaming is old enoung now that it has gone in cycles.

I mean, seriously, Daggerfall was continent-sized and was using procedural generation to make dungeons and build dialogue and quests and essentially reimagining how games could be made in ways that wouldn't resurface until what? No Man's Sky? Oblivion is bad Lord of the Rings. If anything it's the awkward middle child now, because man, the Imperial City in Oblivion feels hilariously tiny and basically deserted against modern RPGs. There are five people running loops and having canned conversations. Coming from Baldur's Gate 3 or Cyberpunk to this is... a bit of a shock.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

"Why is an old game good?" feels like an odd question. It would be silly to ask that of any other medium, wouldn't it? The most beloved classics being beloved isn't an indictment of modern stuff, especially when cherry-picking the greatest hits and ignoring how many flops existed back then too.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Survivorship bias, essentially.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I can't belive people play football. That game is old as hell!

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It hasn't been updated since forever, can't believe even pay to watch others play.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Clair Obscur came out the same time and it's probably the best RPG I've ever played, and I've played every noteworthy one in the last 40 years at least. GOTY at the LEAST.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How can it be that it is more enjoyable than anything else I’ve bought over the last year (at least)?

Possibly because you're buying the wrong games? Don't get me wrong, I've got a massive nostalgia-on for Oblivion, and I picked up the Remaster, and it's cool....

But there have been a lot of great games so far this year. Just this month alone, Blue Prince and Expedition 33 have both been fantastic. Both better than the Oblivion remaster imo.

The Indiana Jones game is cool. I haven't played Split Fiction yet, but it looks really good as well. Just to name a few.

Edit: More that I remembered: Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2. Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii. Wanderstop is pretty chill. Xenoblade Chronicles X was finally released on Switch (game map is like 5x the size of Skryim or something..). Atomfall. Lost Records: Bloom & Rage is pretty cool if you're into that kind of thing.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

You're just buying the wrong games.

Go play Split Fiction, Balatro, and Hades 2.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I hear this rhetoric a lot, which shows me that a ton of people have a much harder time than me finding the good stuff, even though there's so much of it out there.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I mean I am all for criticising creatively bankrupt mush like Ubisoft et al pushes out and Call of Duty 420: Black Ops 69 or FIFA or whatever but we can't pretend there are literally no good games being released nowadays either. Just now we had a month with both Blue Prince and Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 being released within weeks of each other. BG3 and Alan Wake 2 releasing in the same year was just two years ago.

There are plenty of not just good but great recent games.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Just now we had a month with both Blue Prince and Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 being released within weeks of each other.

Didn't see your comment before saying almost the exact same thing lol

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Great art is timeless.

There are modern games that can compete, they're just few and far between.

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