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Bro biden had no problem communicating. He had a speach impediment.
I watch most presidential press briefings and only one of the 80 year old presidents is a senile old fool.
Even if Biden has lost his mind, the remaining parts amounted for more knowledge about government and international affairs than trump ever had.
Biden is gone and our problems are just begining, do me a favor and keep his name out of your mouth.
What? I've heard him talk from a few years ago, he stumbles over his words occasionally, but Biden's debate performance was not a speech impediment. He was lost, easily distracted, and spoke like he wasn't all there. And the fact that it comes and goes (he seemed fine just a few days later) suggests this is a mental issue, not a life-long thing. I agree with you though, Biden is still better than Trump (I am about as far from being a Trump supporter as one can possibly be and still be on the same political spectrum), and his cabinet was far better, but pretending that it's not a problem is part of why it was a problem.
Also you are cordially invited to fuck all the way off with that 'keep his name out of your mouth' shit. I'm here to have adult discussions about our situation and how we got into it, if you can't handle that then you're welcome to go sit at the kids' table.
Did you see the entire 4 year presidency so you can compare it to the current one or did you just see the debate bro? You realize he was on TV talking every day for 4 years and fox news captured all the speech blunders. It was not that many.
Did you see anything but the debate bro? be honest? Did you say Genocide Joe and Vote Jill Stien and hand the election to trump? Pretending like biden was a bad president is an opinion reserved for Fox news enjoyers. Biden was not the problem you were. The low information voter. The voter that shows up last minute and sorts through a couple narratives and sends it. Or are you the voter that splits the party in the most important election of our life time. Which one are you bro? You don't sound like you need to be discussing politics, you need to be studying it.
Why are you guys talking about the debate performance? Is that the only time you watched Biden speak? I watch press briefings 24/7. Biden spoke just fine when he was talking to europe. He spoke fine when he talked to the american people.
But ya he couldnt keep up with trump lying his ass off, go figure. AT 10 PM at night. Sure ya bro go off. you guys are totally spitting. Nothing about policy or government just all debate vibes "dId YoU sEe ThE dEbAtE bRo?"
As his staff has said he has good days and bad, which is pretty common with dementia-related illnesses.
Have you ever been around someone with dementia? Have you ever watched them slowly fade away until they can't even remember their own family members? I have. I remember those 'maybe they're not all there' days, and it was almost worse that they were interspersed with days where they seemed lively and all together and on top of the world, because you know it won't last, because those days will get fewer and further between until they just don't come at all.
Would you elect my grandmother who thinks she's still living under the Hoover administration? I wouldn't.
Yes I lost my grandma to dementia, so I'm a bit offended at you confusing a speach impediment and old age with actual dementia.
I must have clinical dementia too at 35 from smoking to much weed. I forget shit all the time from some light ADD.
Anyway, reality called. You got Dementia Don as president. He's half as lucid and 3 times as dangerous, and he's sorrounded by incompetent Yes-men.
I'm done arguing with you. Bidens corpse would be a better president than Trump. Just down vote me and leave me alone.
I'm sorry for your loss. Mine isn't gone yet, but it won't be long.
But I wouldn't vote for your grandmother either.
Nah i'm fine with capping office at 70-75. I think we also need to be more open and blunt when people have served enough. There needs to be succession plans and not just sit in seat and die.
Yeah, that sounds good to me. Although honestly I think more term limits can only improve things. Maybe just 1 term for everything max.
Think about AOC first term, very popular with her base. She got a lot of media attention because republicans hated her. Young hot smart and totally lefty. Couple terms in congress and she is reformed a bit in messaging. She understands procedure better, and she's eligible for important roles in comittees. In this time she's gained my support as a centrist.
I think this is what the party needs to be doing more. We bring in fresh blood, we help them grow as politicians and we don't strangle their visions and constituents because we don't agree with them. Let the people decide. But it takes time for AOC to gain my favor. It's a trust thing, her words and her action, following her over 4-8 years makes you feel better about sending them back for 4 more.
After 20 years ya curb em, but some of the best politicians and policies are worth fostering and need leadership that can last multiple political cycles.
Iono, from the somewhat-outside (I'm a bit more lefty than the Democratic party) perspective, I disagree, because it kind of seems like what happened is AOC talked a big game, got some press on some more progressive ideas, and then got 'deradicalized' I guess is the word? back to the centrist norm of the party. Now I barely hear about her because she's (to my understanding, but I haven't been following her very closely) just like all the other democrats in office instead of being the idealist firebrand she once was. That feels like a solid loss for her constituents in my book, but.. shrug that's just, like, my opinion, man.
I'm definitely with you that the party needs some fresh blood though, the vampires in charge have long overstayed their tenure.
Biden’s brain was leaking out of his head during the presidential debate, arguably the most important night of his ‘24 run. That was way more than a speech impediment, it was dementia on full display. His staffers have already come out and said they knew he was suffering from serious mental decline as early as ‘22. Stop making excuses for the Dems trying to steamroll through an unfit candidate…it was a dumbass strategy and it cost the nation to such a massive extent we may never recover. We should have upheld the democratic process and held a contested primary instead, and Biden’s legacy will be forever tarnished by refusing to do so.
We also watched as trump sucked off a microphone at one of his rallies, but that didn't seem to affect the outcome of the election, so why does Biden being senile and having dementia even matter?
So because republicans are willing to vote for a piece of shit candidate so should democrats? Fucking lol.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm just pointing out the contradiction. "Our candidate must be perfect" meanwhile the other guy is fellating microphones on a stage and mocking disabled people.
I agree that democrats need to run a good candidate, but clearly that's not the most important thing here.
Because Biden should have never run in the first place, and the contest would have been much different if Trump were facing a competent opponent who was nominated democratically.
I agree, although I should also bring up that your argument was about the Biden vs Trump debate, however we also later watched the Harris vs Trump debate where Harris ultimately wiped the floor with him. My point is that clearly the quality of a candidate doesn't matter to the majority of voters, and the quality of how they can debate doesn't matter either.
I think the quality of candidate you’re referring to is quite subjective.
Alternatively, what I’m suggesting is that a democratically nominated (by the voters) candidate would objectively be better positioned to win an election.