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This isnβt a show of force, itβs a demonstration for Canada who is planning to buy a number of these submarines from France.
Regardless, it's presence makes a statement that Canada is not alone.
Though I'd be cool if it was stationed at Miquelon for a few months.
They don't need attack subs. They need boomer subs. At this point, Canada needs a nuclear deterrent. And I say that as an American who would be in the cross hairs of said nuclear deterrent. Canada should contract with the French for protection under their umbrella until they can build some of their own. The lesson of Ukraine should be that nukes protect small nations from fascist larger ones. Canada could easily end up like Ukraine. It's not like fascists can't find a casus belli. Putin was "restoring Russian glory" or some such. Trump would be "finishing the American Revolution" or some other bullshit.
Please, Canada, from a friend of yours to the south, do not take this threat lightly. No one is going to be able to save you if the US decides to invade. The same oceans that protect you will prevent your rescue. The only hope Canada will ever have of being able to militarily protect its borders from the US is a credible nuclear deterrent.
Just please, don't harden your hearts while you build these weapons of destruction. Don't close your doors to refugees from the US. As someone who is on the regime's enemies list, hopping across the Canadian border and begging for asylum is the last chance I might have if things really go bad.
Instead of putting all eggs in France basket, Canada should also approach North Korea, China, and Russia for detente and nuclear deterrence. Flirting with North Korea is best path to get SK and Japan to commit to our auto industry, and decouple from their own US extortion. Taking bids for Russia to take over NORAD sites is more constructive than continuing military cooperation, and shamefully subservient to US defense pacts with Philippines. If Russia is no longer the enemy the US forces us to make, then we are protecting the US from Russia, and they need to pay for that privilege.
US and foreign auto industry must be forced to choose Canada over US. US manufacturing destroyed through export tariffs on materials and energy, and proceeds used to subsidize Canadian manufacturing. Manufacturing/MSFT in Washington and Michigan states must recommend secession and joining Canada, and be covered by our nuclear shields.
I mean, they're not mutually exclusive. Nobody was about to start openly threatening the Americans, but having French forces around and mulling over defence deals with France sends a signal.
We don't know what Macron and Trudeau talked about, but accelerating things like this in light of the new reality could well have been part of it.
You're right, thanks for adding context. I'm immediately suspicious when a picture is posted with no accompanying news article, and my search wasn't turning up any articles, only social media links.
Here's a French article about it.
Article is about selling nuclear powered subs. Canada doesn't need these boondoggles for defense against US, because the mission capability is being months at sea.
Australia watching on with regret.
right?! gawwwwwwd weβre so fucking captured
Morrison is such a dickhead.
Morrison knew what he was doing, the sub deal was to poison the chalice before Labor gained the majority.
Unfortunately for the walking sack of salmonella and shitty curry, his wrangler (Murdoch) managed to sway the election enough to get the LNP back in power.
I have actually met Morrison in person once (friends of friends of friends) and he is a fucking moron but JFC he's at least a brain cell or two ahead of Dutton
I dunno .. Dutton seems smarter, but more evil. Morrison just seems like a brainwashed idiot who's failed upwards. I don't know how anyone looks at the screaming void of evil that is Dutton and thinks "yeah that thing has my best interests at heart .. or a heart"
They're just two different flavours of evil, Morrison is a happy clapper pentecostalist "God favours the rich" evil and Dutton is an ex-corrupt cop who wants authoritarianism under his rule evil.
They both don't have the critical thinking to realise the damage they do or why men like them shouldn't hold positions of power, but Dutton following right out of Trumps playbook despite international backlash is a pretty good case for dumb-as-fuck syndrome.
But I agree, it's absurd that we have these stooges running for parliament I don't know how we got here..
I'm still not entirely sure how Australia seemingly wound up with a modified Westminster system that was worse than the original, genuinely pretty impressive.
The only reason it's worse is because we have a strong Murdoch media bias, so the general public are pretty ill-informed. With everyone being fed bullshit so often it's easy to get them to vote against their best interests.
Arguably at least we have proportional representation. FPTP sucks.
Only in the Senate. And only on a per-state basis, so it's only as proportional as "a proportion of 6" can be...which is much less proportional than a proportion of 40, like if the Senate were done nationally.
We knew that BEFORE the election and yet elected the LNP anyway, fuck voters.
Could be worse, you could be a murican α( α )α
Also a great and well deserved middle finger to Australia
Yes, this old news is about a nuclear-powered attack submarine, not necessarily a submarine that can nuclear-attack.
IIRC only 2 out of the 9 french subs in service exclusively carry torpedoes and anti-ship missiles (Rubis class). I'm sure the 3 Suffren class with no second strike capabilities could still deliver some sort of short ranged tac nuke. So there are high chances that this is a submarine that can nuclear-attack.
France hasn't had tactical nukes for some time now
What's the point of these submarines if there aren't nukes on them?
Nuclear submarines are powered-by nuclear power, they aren't necessarily platforms for nuclear weapons.
to demonstrate (politely) how quickly and quietly they can appear when we need them to. without endangering anyone or raising alarms that allow trump and co to rattle their sabers
i like it, we should be like - "maybe we have nukes, maybe we dont. you wont know until its too late"
There's a dismantled trebuchet on board.
To shoot at the ones with nukes on them?
I guess they could use them as a regular strategic missile platform.
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