News
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
view the rest of the comments
Glad they're using polygraphs, they're unreliable enough that the leakers won't be caught.
No, they're unreliable enough that whoever they want to be caught, will be caught.
Hit the nail on the head here.
5 bucks says the "suspects" all end up being gay, women, or non-white. You know. the same groups of people they blame everything on.
They’re just trying to scare people enough into having a reaction or admitting fault. Someone could also fail because they are afraid they will fail or they’re afraid they’re a suspect. If the actual leaker ~~thinks they’re doing the right thing and~~that the poly can’t catch them, they probably won’t even have a reaction.
Yeah but they're unreliable enough that someone will get caught regardless of whether they leaked anything.
As someone who has taken a polygraph, there's nuance.
First, they're unreliable because they can be beat- but neither you or I are beating them, you have to be trained to beat it.
Second, the reason they don't work is because you can just not talk. But if you're forced to talk to keep your job, you're gonna show lots of lying indicators.
Third, it's not a binary "did you lie". They're watching your blood pressure, heart rate, detecting any fidgets; things you subconsciously do when you lie. The person administrating the polygraph will then press you into a confession.
Edit: Not going to bother responding to the silly replies from armchair psychologists who feel smart "knowing" polygraphs are unreliable. For the vast majority of the population, when answering binary questions, you will answer them differently depending on whether or not you lie. Regardless of whether or not "this is admissible in court", it's more than enough to deny someone a clearance renewal. Rub your brain cells together and extrapolate.
Thats just plainly false.
There's no reliable correlation between lying and heart rate or any other bodily functions. It's an intellectual act after all not a physical one. It simply doesn't compute.
The physiological response could be driven by literally anything and there's no way to isolated it to "lying" - what if I'm nervous just because I'm being interrogated by people who are known to be dirty and untrustworthy?
Polygraph is the biggest snake oil in contemporary crime "science" and frankly its infuriating that it still exists and everyone who defends it should be bullied into returning back to sanity.
This is why they're unreliable. Too many false positives. But the stress of lying can produce a physiological response, which is the basis for the polygraph in the first place.
But people can also control their responses, so there's also a high possibly of false negatives.
The true positive and true negative rate is too low to be considered reliable, but it's not like there's zero basis in fact, like those bomb scanners that were literally empty shells.
There is no machine or drug or anything else that can "detect" a lie or signs of deception. Polygraph results are purely interpretive, and anything that's given to interpretation is given to the bias of the interpreter. Polygraph results are also wildly inconsistent. That's why they are generally not admissible in court.
I am Sparticus.