Ethnic Minorities and People of Color
Official Title of this Community: Ethnic Minorities and People of Color
Why is the title different?
We like to have fun here.
What is this place? A safe space for underrepresented peoples and peoples of color to talk, chill, and vibe.
What are the basic rules of the community?
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Follow Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines. Non negotiable. This is the bedrock and mods will make decisions with this always in mind.
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This community is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This is a safe space where such people can freely discuss their struggles, insight, and thoughts without fear. If you are not, we respectfully ask you do not post or comment here. A future community will be established to allow for racial discussions with a mixed userbase. However, remember, comments here must still respect Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines.
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Irony Racism is still racism. Racism is bad m'kay? We will treat irony racism and bad faith racist satire as racism. Will wield the ban hammer accordingly.
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No sectarianism: This is an identity channel not a channel for you all to complain about why XYZ isn't the "one true leftism". Take that to another place.
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Stupidpol is not allowed. Stupidpol is class reductionist. We are an identity community. Thinking like stupidpol ignores the struggles of the oppressed, their voices, and their need for unique support. Nothing says oppression more than someone saying that the identity you have is "not real" and that if you only thought like them you'd see what your "real" identity is. Mods reserve the right to ban users and content who promote stupidpol, stupidpol memes, and other class reductionist thinking.
FAQ
I don't look XYZ and/or sometimes I can pass as white so I don't know if I can post here. Can I?
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This place is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This includes those of mixed heritage and those who may be "white" but are of an ethnicity that is a minority in their area (i.e. Kurds, etc) If you've experienced oppression due to your identity that is not based on sexual / gender identification, you are welcome here.
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Moreover, for our American audience, we have people from around the world who are "white" but are oppressed due to being a minority in their country. They are and should be welcomed here.
What can I post?
- Anything you think is relevant to the mission of this community. Things will evolve over time.
- Topics and things relevant to EM and POC.
Suggested Posts
- [People of Spice]: Food recipes so others can taste your culture
- [Theory]: Vid/podcasts/websites discussing issues relevant to identity, anti-imperialism, etc
- [News]: Vids/podcasts/websites that talk about current events relevant to EM and POC
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remember when people on hexbear this summer were saying every company in china is worker run now? remember the reasonable people getting ratioed? that was the moment i realized that this most of place is actually awful for having discussions about anything other then soviet history, not saying i dont think it can improve but god danm.
It's especially bullshit because the closest we've gotten to an actual communist revolution in the US was the Black Panther Party. Hell, that might even be the closest we've gotten to any sort of leftwing revolution in the first world along with the IRA. Both movements were directly opposed by whites in North America and by basically everyone in Europe. Not even the Red Army Faction in Germany had the momentum of the Panthers, despite using way more violence.
Then there's the Nation of Islam, which obviously was reactionary and not leftist. You could probably even make the argument it was black supremacist. The NoI still did more for civil rights in this country than any group of whites ever has or ever will. Even things white leftists take for granted were done by the NoI.
If they're calling you a supremacist they have no idea what anything approaching a "black supremacist" really looks like. Was reminded of this exact thing, aside from interactions with hotep family members over the holidays, from FD Signifier's drake beef coverage; paraphrasing "Aubrey didn't mention any of Kendrick's 5 Percenter connections that would be better fuel because he literally doesn't know about this stuff, he doesn't understand it at all". The idea of white hexbears calling anyone here "black supremacist" lmao
"Critical Support" means "if I say this you can't criticize me". There's hardly any actual critical support - it's either completely uncritical jerking over orthodox opinions, or vague signaling towards "support" that crumbles immediately (actually the usual thinly veiled white racist bullshit.)
Always how it is huh. Had uncles who were with the BPP in Chicago, were friends with Muhammad Ali, were traveled and read and deep into the radical culture, and I was just too young or too distant from them. Passed a long time ago now, wish I could ask them what they thought
then again,
great grandma said to my mom many many years ago "if you don't care for family (like u said, real family) like me while I'm around, don't come to my funeral acting like you cared when I'm gone. I will get up out of the coffin and slap the hell outta you", so maybe those family rifts I was too young to be aware of were pretty deepThis is still ongoing:
Malcolm X assassination lawsuit
It was announced last year and I think the actual trial starts in 2025. They're getting subpoenas and whatnot, plus requests using the Freedom of Information Act.
But like everyone knows those weren't rogue members of the NoI acting on their own. Elijah Muhammed, one of his sons, or Farrakhan ordered the hit and law enforcement helped them do it.
Then scold us for not supporting a white chud committing chud-on-chud violence lmao. Yes, it's good when fascists kill one another. No, we do not have to continue helping them. I'm not losing any sleep over some CEO getting shot. I also won't lose any sleep if his killer (a racist, homophobic, sexist asshat) gets tossed in prison.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Hexbear and other leftist spaces are not ready for some things I have to say because they're so hung up on Cold War history, which is incredibly Euro-centric. They generally have good opinions on Vietnam, for example, but then will have blind spots about how shitty the US was and the role its troops played in war crimes.
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For example, how people like GDF, they often blame the Israel Lobby, if not Israel, for the U.S support of Israel
As far as I'm concerned, to me, it's blaming the prostitute for the husband's infidelity...
never mind the shared settler-colonial history of both these damned countries, the fact that Israel can be used as a military asset, a la Taiwan, never mind that it is instead the majority-Evangelical white nation-state of Amerikkka who saves Israel, because they see each other in our selves, and so forth
They accept this brainwashing theory that
and end with this credo that:
Yeah blaming Isreal for American support of Isreal is another good example, especially because some people will end up showing their whole antisemitic ass selves. "There's a Jewish cabal making the genocidal death cult of evangelicals act out their genocidal death cult fantasies" is diverting blame from whitey to another group. They don't want to accept just how racist their friends and family are.
I hate to get all doomer, but the reason socialism hasn't happened in the Imperial Core is because the majority of white people, especially the so-called "middle class," don't want it. They will choose fascism over communism when given the choice.
Not sure, while most people do have a negative view of
because of the secret speech thats were most of the criticism ends
I dont see people talking much of the failures of brezhnev like backing ethiopia or they blame like 90% of the sino-soviet split on Mao
which is WILD
Ok, I see regarding the 1980 Ethiopia famine (jeez, a lot of ML-on-ML infighting in the 80s, not only in Cambodia, but Ethiopia as well)
the ethiopia backing is bad because in one part Somalia became a socialist ML state before them and was the USSR ally in the horn, when the Ogaden war happen, the USSR abandoned its old ally over ethiopia who was the stronger power in the Horn and Also with the Cubans lead an intervention to help ethiopia causing Somalia to lose the war and try to search for new allies eventually leading to the end of socialism in somalia and the collapse of the country.
as a punitive measure the Derg did ethnic cleasing with cuban support in the Ogaden region
Didn't Somalia start the war and have irredentist (national chavunist nation-state expansionist) plans, tho? That's what I've heard, as an overview of events, at least in Wikipedia
Apparently, in response to the Ogaden genocide, didn't the Ogaden refugees displace the local Ishaq tribe in Somali and create militant orgs to crack down upon them, which was the spark of the civil war that caused the end of socialism
Then again, I repeat, take it with a grain of salt, since I've read it from wikipedia
I haven't read much other perspectives on Somalia and Ethiopia
to me i see it as a national unification struggle similar to the DPRK, Ethiopia took over the Ogaden region around 60-80 years during Menelik II's conquests which were backed by imperialist power like France and Britain to have an allied control the interior of the Horn and even helped them put doing independist movements like the dervish movement
i did simplified the ogaden war to civil war but yes the refugee crisis did play a part in the somalian civil war
also i forgot during the ogaden war cuba and the ussr supported the Derg in the Eritrean War of Independence which was also bad
also most of what i know is from Horn of africa Leftists which seem to know their stuff
Can I have what they wrote about the situation of Horn of Africa?
Its mostly via tweets,
Here is one
They also have a podcast but i havent heard it
I'm sorry but I don't recall something like that being said... closest was that China was cracking down on real estate capitalist looters, you know, taking gradual steps, but nothing ridiculous like that (I'm pretty sure Hexbear flipflops between doomer, bloomer, and "nothing really happens" a lot, so maybe there's a possibility something like that was said)
I mean, how would y'all know, regarding economic and foreign policy of Global South countries like China, and the other remaining socialist nations? Let alone anti-imperialist yet flawed, if not possibly progressive countries like the Sankara-inspired Sahel countries (at least Asante comments about them), Axis of Resistance in Middle East, and so forth
I mean, for Christ's sake, as much as the overall Hexbear community may suck, I really feel like this is just subtweeting about the news comm.
https://hexbear.net/post/2412952
278 upbears
direct quote from the post, and you can see dissenters getting ratioed
i mean ill openly criticize the news com no worries there, its basically not usable anymore (for me)