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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

other then soviet history

Not sure, while most people do have a negative view of corn-man-khrush because of the secret speech thats were most of the criticism ends

I dont see people talking much of the failures of brezhnev like backing ethiopia or they blame like 90% of the sino-soviet split on Mao

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

or they blame like 90% of the sino-soviet split on Mao

which is WILD

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

failures of brezhnev like backing ethiopia

Ok, I see regarding the 1980 Ethiopia famine (jeez, a lot of ML-on-ML infighting in the 80s, not only in Cambodia, but Ethiopia as well)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the ethiopia backing is bad because in one part Somalia became a socialist ML state before them and was the USSR ally in the horn, when the Ogaden war happen, the USSR abandoned its old ally over ethiopia who was the stronger power in the Horn and Also with the Cubans lead an intervention to help ethiopia causing Somalia to lose the war and try to search for new allies eventually leading to the end of socialism in somalia and the collapse of the country.

as a punitive measure the Derg did ethnic cleasing with cuban support in the Ogaden region

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the USSR abandoned its old ally over ethiopia who was the stronger power in the Horn

Didn't Somalia start the war and have irredentist (national chavunist nation-state expansionist) plans, tho? That's what I've heard, as an overview of events, at least in Wikipedia

causing Somalia to lose the war and try to search for new allies eventually leading to the end of socialism in somalia and the collapse of the country.

Apparently, in response to the Ogaden genocide, didn't the Ogaden refugees displace the local Ishaq tribe in Somali and create militant orgs to crack down upon them, which was the spark of the civil war that caused the end of socialism

Then again, I repeat, take it with a grain of salt, since I've read it from wikipedia

I haven't read much other perspectives on Somalia and Ethiopia

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
  1. to me i see it as a national unification struggle similar to the DPRK, Ethiopia took over the Ogaden region around 60-80 years during Menelik II's conquests which were backed by imperialist power like France and Britain to have an allied control the interior of the Horn and even helped them put doing independist movements like the dervish movement

  2. i did simplified the ogaden war to civil war but yes the refugee crisis did play a part in the somalian civil war

also i forgot during the ogaden war cuba and the ussr supported the Derg in the Eritrean War of Independence which was also bad

also most of what i know is from Horn of africa Leftists which seem to know their stuff

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

also most of what i know is from Horn of africa Leftists which seem to know their stuff

Can I have what they wrote about the situation of Horn of Africa?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Its mostly via tweets,

Here is one

They also have a podcast but i havent heard it