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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Then you're all kinds of "counter-revolutionary", "comprador", "segregationist", "genocide enthusiast"( thanks Horsh, never gonna let go of what happened to Prof. Flowers on my life), or my personal favorite, the one I've been called more times by white people on this site than any site I've ever been on, "black supremacist".

Then they wonder why I have so little faith in them that I don't even regard a 'left' in this nation that isn't predominantly Black or Indigenous.

It's especially bullshit because the closest we've gotten to an actual communist revolution in the US was the Black Panther Party. Hell, that might even be the closest we've gotten to any sort of leftwing revolution in the first world along with the IRA. Both movements were directly opposed by whites in North America and by basically everyone in Europe. Not even the Red Army Faction in Germany had the momentum of the Panthers, despite using way more violence.

Then there's the Nation of Islam, which obviously was reactionary and not leftist. You could probably even make the argument it was black supremacist. The NoI still did more for civil rights in this country than any group of whites ever has or ever will. Even things white leftists take for granted were done by the NoI.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

It's especially bullshit because the closest we've gotten to an actual communist revolution in the US was the Black Panther Party. Hell, that might even be the closest we've gotten to any sort of leftwing revolution in the first world along with the IRA.

Actual, honest-to-god community-based mutual aid that built outwards; even for the more undeniably critique-worthy patriarchal stance of the formation. (EDIT: BPP, not IRA. I don't know near enough about the Irish to be making a call like that.) And like I was dragging another a couple weeks ago: most these mfs that talk on the internet couldn't even properly organize the movement of surplus crop from their garden to their neighbors.

Then there's the Nation of Islam, which obviously was reactionary and not leftist.

It's still my stance that the only reason Farrakhan is still alive is because he sold somebody to the FBI. I can't immediately prove it, I don't have the receipts, but my gut tells me there's kin-blood on that man's hands.

You could probably even make the argument it was black supremacist.

Even for my quoting of Five Percenters and knowledge of the Supreme Mathematics, I'd still be inclined to agree with you. Now, I genuinely haven't met a member of NoI of this generation to know if their stances toward mixing ever softened, so I could be going off old knowledge, but they're so much more hardline than me that it genuinely insults me when someone calls me a supremacist lmfao. I keep thinking of that one white girl that even Malcolm X once said he regretted turning away-- there's always a couple in every few thousand.

The NoI still did more for civil rights in this country than any group of whites ever has or ever will. Even things white leftists take for granted were done by the NoI.

Still correct, even for how I feel about Farrakhan. But god forbid you mention them to one of these crackers; the concept of 'critical support' goes RIGHT out the window as soon as these settlers see melanin. And in that, we see why Malcolm turned hella crackers away.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's still my stance that the only reason Farrakhan is still alive is because he sold somebody to the FBI. I can't immediately prove it, I don't have the receipts, but my gut tells me there's kin-blood on that man's hands.

This is still ongoing:

Malcolm X assassination lawsuit

It was announced last year and I think the actual trial starts in 2025. They're getting subpoenas and whatnot, plus requests using the Freedom of Information Act.

But like everyone knows those weren't rogue members of the NoI acting on their own. Elijah Muhammed, one of his sons, or Farrakhan ordered the hit and law enforcement helped them do it.

the concept of 'critical support' goes RIGHT out the window as soon as these settlers see melanin.

Then scold us for not supporting a white chud committing chud-on-chud violence lmao. Yes, it's good when fascists kill one another. No, we do not have to continue helping them. I'm not losing any sleep over some CEO getting shot. I also won't lose any sleep if his killer (a racist, homophobic, sexist asshat) gets tossed in prison.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's still my stance that the only reason Farrakhan is still alive is because he sold somebody to the FBI. I can't immediately prove it, I don't have the receipts, but my gut tells me there's kin-blood on that man's hands.

I mean he basically admitted as much (youtube link; clip from FD Signifier vid). But tbh I don't think that would stop the feds from sending him to the next life anyway if they wanted, I doubt they have any honour in that sense. I think the only reason he's still around is because he provides a useful radicalisation vector that doesn't threaten the US hegemony and remains useful in that way. And yet NoI has still done more good than the average white communist with tHe mOsT cOrReCt opinion

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

when someone calls me a supremacist

If they're calling you a supremacist they have no idea what anything approaching a "black supremacist" really looks like. Was reminded of this exact thing, aside from interactions with hotep family members over the holidays, from FD Signifier's drake beef coverage; paraphrasing "Aubrey didn't mention any of Kendrick's 5 Percenter connections that would be better fuel because he literally doesn't know about this stuff, he doesn't understand it at all". The idea of white hexbears calling anyone here "black supremacist" lmao

the concept of 'critical support' goes RIGHT out the window

"Critical Support" means "if I say this you can't criticize me". There's hardly any actual critical support - it's either completely uncritical jerking over orthodox opinions, or vague signaling towards "support" that crumbles immediately (actually the usual thinly veiled white racist bullshit.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Aubrey didn't mention any of Kendrick's 5 Percenter connections that would be better fuel because he literally doesn't know about this stuff, he doesn't understand it at all". The idea of white hexbears calling anyone here "black supremacist" lmao

Not even wrong, they're not even in the places to even tangentially see what that really looks like. There was always a bit of mild hoteppery in my family; but that's to be expected-- I had hella radical family members during the heyday of BPP, but like all things Amerikan, that kinda melted away to aesthetics and mild-to-moderate reaction as our surviving leaders all sold out during my mother and grandmother's generations-- but I remember this one like, core memory from when I was a kid.

Was me, my mom, and my grandma having a weekly breakfast together 'cause grandma only got one day off a week, and to her, family wasn't no Fast and Furious meme line. We're comin' out the restaurant, and across the street from the place we were eating at, there were a bunch of honest to god Black Hebrew Israelites milling about on a corner and yelling; and the noise of disappointment that left my grandmother... I always gotta wonder, especially now that I can't ask her, what she saw in the way they were accosting people on the side of the road. This was one of our storytellers, so like... I know she had to have been seeing a 'how far we've fallen' in that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I had hella radical family members during the heyday of BPP, but like all things Amerikan, that kinda melted away to aesthetics

now that I can't ask her, what she saw

Always how it is huh. Had uncles who were with the BPP in Chicago, were friends with Muhammad Ali, were traveled and read and deep into the radical culture, and I was just too young or too distant from them. Passed a long time ago now, wish I could ask them what they thought

then again,great grandma said to my mom many many years ago "if you don't care for family (like u said, real family) like me while I'm around, don't come to my funeral acting like you cared when I'm gone. I will get up out of the coffin and slap the hell outta you", so maybe those family rifts I was too young to be aware of were pretty deep