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Luigi's Manifesto - Thanks Ken Klipz (www.kenklippenstein.com)
submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Kenny Klipz has the goods. This is the real thing, most likely.

BTW it's not behind paywall so do our guy some good and give him some traffic for the scoop.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The only situation would be if luigi is also in on it lol the only thing he disputed was the 10k in cash and that his backpack was waterproof. Not a "Faraday cage" lol

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think people are making outrageous overestimations of how competent the NYPD is. The idea that they essentially hired some deep state actor to pretend to be the guy to cover their asses while branching the conspiracy outside of state lines and fooling another department is so ludicrous to me like if they were gonna do that they would at least wait another month or two in case they find the real guy.

I think this whole thing is fun but the grasping at straws is pretty wild to me like the eyebrow thing was already refuted perhaps we just want the guy to be our Lenin and we’re mad that he’s actually just a techbro weirdo?

Lots of magical thinking going on IMO but I would be very hyped if I’m wrong about this

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree lol. Like if this was a setup then wtf does luigi get out of this, because he would clearly be in on it.

Ultimately he's a weird guy who did a cool thing. I wish people wouldn't focus so much on him and instead focus on the discourse and environment it created. I don't really care what he thinks, people are rabid for this to happen. And that's good. It's pretty clear this is the guy who did it and that's fine, on to the next one

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Yup. Regardless of dude it has clearly done a good bit of work in letting people realize they can do things like openly advocate for a health insurance CEOs death. I doubt these people would have explicitly reprimanded someone for mentioning it before, but people just openly screaming about it now. A good environment!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Regarding the "he only disputed the cash" bit:

My understanding is that this isn't the murder trial, so none of the other items would have been brought up because they aren't relevant to the hearing. The only thing this hearing was for is whether he should be held behind bars and for how long, and the cash was relevant to make that determination because it was being argued that the cash (and in particular the fact that part of it was foreign currency) indicates that he's a flight risk and is trying to flee the country. That was being used as the basis for asking the judge to rule that he should be held without bail pending trial.

This wouldn't be the time or place for disputing the facts of the case because there is no case at this moment. No trial has occurred, and this courtroom doesn't even have jurisdiction to hold a trial for this case. The New York prosecutors office would need to make a request for extradition and he would need to be tried in a New York court.

So the fact that he only disputed the cash doesn't necessarily mean he is admitting the rest belonged to him. It's just as likely that the cash is the only thing that was disputed because it was the only thing that was presented as being relevant to make a decision regarding bail, and the other items weren't commented on because they weren't relevant to the matter being discussed.

If someone has more knowledge on everything that was presented in court and can comment further on the matter, feel free to correct me!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Good post and good information! Thank you

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did they mention what foreign currency?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just saw CNN's reporting on the hearing, and they only refer to it as foreign currency and didn't give specifics.

I don't know if other sources give more detail.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Probably monopoly money again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

that's how i read it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

To be clear: the only thing being reported on is that he disputed the 10k in cash and his backpack. I'm increasingly starting to think this isn't a frame up job but afaik we have no idea what he said or did not say about the manifesto or the gun...or whether or not he was even questioned about those things in the first place.