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Maybe this extend to other corporations. Nestle, FIFA, Blackstone…
Other corpos in the same industry are def taking note https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/05/health/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-claim-limits/index.html
already removed public facing leadership info like the internet archive isn't a thing.
Look up any of these companies proxy statements and you can get all the executive board including big shareholders. Quickly download them before they're removed too.
Astonishing timing
ONLY IN CT.
Most likely just spending more on security.
This is the part thats exciting to me.
Who hasn't been affected by this? Or hasn't seen health insurance denials hurt people?
They can pay security all they want. But the security better be truly sociopathic because whatever the salaries they get paid still won't bring back friends, family, neighbors, mentors, etc.
I mean... the industry tends to attract a certain type.
Imagine being too sociopathic and too corrupt to be a cop.
We're talking high end here. These people are too skilled to be a cop.
Often they have quite a bit of experience in the military right?
Military, spec ops, retire. Then they got military pension on top of big money being security contractors. And their bosses will buy them all the best toys.
Let them pay for security. In the words of the IRA: They need to be right all the time, we only need to be right once.
The hurt folks only need to be lucky once.
The security might be willing to go hard for just that reason. Don't underestimate the ability of a human to compromise their morals for money to help their loved ones.
And who says the security will be loyal? Just like who says the cops are really gonna try to catch this guy?
The hatred of the health insurance companies is truly universal. In such a divided polarized country it’s truly incredible how unifying this act of murder was.
Everyone except the politicians have to deal with these insurance companies. That includes cops and private security. How many of them have had their claims denied for their sick children or family members? No amount of money can buy off that rage.
I'd never trust a cop to do what's right for the people but god damn I hope you're right.
It has nothing to do with what’s right for the people but more so doing what’s selfish. They’ve been fucked over too so I doubt they’ll put much effort into this.
I hope you're right but I will never underestimate a fascist's desire for power. Kill this guy or frame a scapegoat and you get money, promotion, worship from the common fascists. Maybe even a ghostwritten book deal and get millions.
Oh I’m sure there’s someone who wants to get the fame for killing modern day bin Laden (omg what a sentence). But I think the majority of the rank and file have had negative experiences themselves with the health insurance companies and don’t want to do more than the bare minimum in solving this.
Maybe I’m being biased and hyperbolic but this is the most unifying political event I’ve ever lived through and I lived through quite a bit of major political events now. Only the most pearl clutching of false piety liberals are condemning this… nearly everyone in this country has had first or secondhand experience of being fucked over by health insurance.
If we're still talking about the same guy I prefer modern day John Brown.
This is truly the most unifying thing. I wish it had happened before the election but I doubt it would have changed anything. I want to hold onto this feeling.
It wouldn’t change anything. This is working class revolt, and both political parties are led by members of the ruling class. Republican and democrat leadership are equally scared I bet. And their donors even more so. This was an attack on them.
(You’re right John brown is more apt, but bin Laden had seal team six)
Holy shit I hope you're right. This needs to be the spark. We are many, they are few. The military and police together are only 1% of the population. The billionaires are a fraction of that.
Yeah I hope the Democrats are scared into running a democratic socialist if we ever have another election. I vote for the bastards for harm reduction but I hate them. Not nearly as much as I hate the Republicans though.
I don’t think the police give a shit about the killer of this CEO. The cops don’t get special health care they’re in the same system the rest of us are in that denies their loved ones care.
I’m less certain of the military because they have their own healthcare system. But even then they have non military friends and family getting fucked over.
Do you mean blackrock? FIFA and all the international sporting organizations suck and are corrupt as hell but they’re just not on the same level of evil as health insurance companies. Nestle is, but it’s evilness isn’t really in America, it’s elsewhere, and elsewhere isn’t armed to the teeth like we are.
I’m shocked it’s taken this long.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/26/un-accuses-blackstone-group-of-helping-to-fuel-a-global-housing-crisis.html
Nestlé is Swiss, and the Swiss have a gun ownership rate that doesn't exactly say "not armed to the teeth". And they siphoning the great lakes is definitely a North American problem.
Yeah the Swiss seem to be who Americans think we are. A free federation of states that embraces the multiple cultures that formed it and is filled with responsible gun owners who are ready to defend their country if need be.
The Swiss may have plenty of guns (they take it home after army duty), but that doesn't mean they have bullets.
Don't go around spewing NRA rhetoric.
They do have bullets, all that is stopping the from using them is some wrapping that is "not to be opened".
There's a reason Switzerland has the highest rate of guns used for violent death in Europe. The fact that they have one of the lowest rate of violent deaths is unrelated.
I was referring to the third world countries where they do their worst offenses
Like literally killing babies! Fuck Nestlé.
Cough here you go.
Blackstone and Blackrock deserve to be on the list.
Silly thing- Gboard swype got Blackstone first try twice, but failed twice on Blackrock, then gave me blackcock. I've never typed that as a compound word in my life.
Hahaha. What is black stone? I know of black rock but I didn’t realize there’s two black earth things
Blackstone is a big money company specialized in leveraged buyouts. Leveraged buyout is the nice word for hostile takeover. They buy companies, fire everyone, sell everything that isn't bolted to the wall and then sell the building and dissolve the company.
It's very profitable and terrible for the workers. But you gotta have big big money to play their game.
I can’t believe I haven’t heard of them. I’ve heard of the concept though. Isn’t that what mitt Romney was up to with Bain capital?
Damn right, I thought about mentioning Mittens at the end but I didn't want to dilute the post.
..., exxon, shell, chevron, ...
Exxon-mobil... BP...
Indeed it would be a horrible development if the missing liability would be enforced by vigilantes!
Those don't affect people as personally as healthcare so it's unlikely.
Give it a decade or two, when the effects of climate change really start fucking people over, they lose their jobs/housing/food, that's when shit will hit the fan. We're still only at the beginning of the effect, and when they really hit it will put the squeeze on everything. The current system is cracking under its own weight.
And the housing market is just a ticking time bomb.
You're so right. I hate the age I am. I'm 41 and in pretty decent shape. I could fight right now. In 20 years I'll probably be dead, if I'm not I'll probably be decrepit. On the other side of the coin I mourn for the children. I have two nephews and a niece and they don't deserve what's coming.
What do you mean about the housing market? Prices are insane I agree, but do you think bubble go pop? That would be great for everyone, which doesn't fit the tone of the rest of your comment.
If/when it pops, it's going to do so like a pimple, with puss, bacteria, gross warm goop.
The rich will buy up even more of the housing, (eventually) push out even more first time buyers, and people will lose their jobs.
https://jbrec.com/insights/charting-a-22-year-roller-coaster-of-investor-activity/
The share of homes owned by investors increased after the 2008 crash, and has been increasing since. Another bubble burst will be the same. Granted, the share of first time home buyers also increased, but it didn't last, and it came at the cost of other people losing their homes.
And we're now seeing reality companies turn into megacorps like they haven't before, with more and more properties each. They should not have that level of control over the market, and it would only increase (dark gray and blue sections on that graph).
Thank you, very well explained with sources. Seriously you went deep into the comments to explain it to me and I appreciate that.
I don't know why I thought real estate would be different when I've been preaching that the people who run Trump are going to wreck the economy on purpose with tariffs so billionaires can buy everything cheap. I just selfishly want to buy a home that's bigger than the shitty one I rent so we can move my wife's elderly mother in with us.
Of course, no problem.
I'm in a similar position, so I feel you.
How is this not the top comment?