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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (2 children)

this is from a couple years ago. everyone is here thinking this is like minority report but it's not about individual behavior, this is just about using predictive models to self-justify racist policing patterns:

Fears of “The Thought Police” are probably running through your head right now, but Chattopadhyay is keen to stress that the focus isn’t on individuals, “We do not focus on predicting individual behavior, and do not suggest that anyone be charged with a crime that they didn’t commit, or be incarcerated for that. Our model learns from, and then predicts, event patterns in the urban space, for example, predicting that within a two block radius around the intersection of 67th Street and SW Avenue, there is a high risk of a homicide a week from now. It does not indicate who is going to be the victim or the perpetrator,” she says.

https://archive.ph/zgUjs

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which of course has a certain degree of success baked in, because if you focus policing in a particular place you will find crimes there because a) crimes happen everywhere and b) cops can just juke the stats / make shit up / make arrests without cause.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

exactly. it's amazing to me that these nerds can talk themselves into creating an ouroboros like this because they don't actually bother to understand how any of this shit works, but i guess whatever justifies their salary...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's the result of other scientists pretending sociology isn't a science. Sociology makes shit like this worthless, so instead of just working together with sociologists, they ignore them.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

very-smart "using advanced AI, we have determined there will be more crime in the high crime area"

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

it's even worse than that! they're treating crimes like they're forces of nature or fucking dice rolls to begin with and completely ignore the role police play in defining and creating crime and the construction of criminality!

i mean garbage in, garbage out, and the whole edifice is built upon a giant pile of racist garbage and these assholes will happily congratulate themselves about how good at math they are

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

AI bringing back miasma theory, past crimes are creating bad odors in the area that are just turning previously pure citizens into criminals. I hope the government gives the police more military equipment to purge these evil vapors

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

exactly but we call it "broken window theory" to jazz it up a bit