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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I can't believe there isn't an NHTSA regulation about manual egress from an unpowered vehicle. This is just bonkers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, imagine if the air brakes failed on a transport truck and instead of them defaulting to on, they no longer worked...

Or if your Anti-lock braking system defaulted to no brakes instead of brakes without Anti-lock

Or if the power goes out an elevator just falls to the ground

Or if.....

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

There are manual releases but they're hidden. They need to be more obvious because these cars are rented to people and obviously the owners aren't taking the time to figure out where they're at.

I would also think just having secondary power packs in each door would help in the event power is cut to ensure the doors can continue to function for a few minutes while also a speaker could explain how to use the emergency release if none of the doors are working.

All this added complexity and cost isn't worth it to me, manual doors just make sense for so many reasons.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

Or, how about this: it’s a door, have it work like every other car door for the last 70 years.

Redesigning stuff to make it “cool” and “futuristic” is fucking stupid and is clearly not safe. Doors have handles, the handles are pulled to open the door. Keep it simple.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The reason given for hiding them just makes that fact worse. It's for "aesthetics". Manual latches don't look futuristic enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In the future nobody reads “the design of everyday things” apparently

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

In the future nobody reads ~~“the design of everyday things” apparently~~

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eject the doors with explosives as soon as the vehicle velocity is zero and fuck everyone else. Tumbler style.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Awesome way to enter the cinema though

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

Or at a red carpet premier: pull up, doors blast off, step out in style over the mangled bodies of the paparazzi...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Honestly Tesla should be sued over this

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The front handles aren't hidden. They're so obvious everyone I take in my car tries to use them first if I don't tell them.

Back doors is a whole other story.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's if they have them. Apparently some models of the Y don't come with manual back door releases.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Back doors is a whole other story.

Thats what this means. The back seats are hit and miss depending on the vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought that was more in reference to the release being hidden under a mat to access. The fact that 'a whole other story' could be misconstrued two ways I think just shows how bonkers this is 😂

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Ah, I can see how that may have come across like that. My bad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

When I rode as a passanger in a Tesla Model 3, the owner told me not to use the big pull handle because it was the manual release, and instead to use the button at the top of the grab bar.

I don't know about the other models but the manual release was a more obvious way to open the door than the intended way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Only for the front seats, and on something like the Y not all models even have manual releases in the back. The ones that do have them covered with a mat and no indication where they are.

On the model Y you need to removal a speaker grill to manually release the doors in the back.