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It's like people really believe America entered WW2 to fight fascism becaus Americans are innately good....
Large amounts of the country said the same shit this guy is. They wanted to either stay out of it or outright join the nazis.
Especially the wealthy. Prescott Bush was believed to be part of the Business Plot that wanted to overthrow the US government in favor of fascism and doing the Axis powers.
They didn't succeed (mostly because of Pearl Harbor) but his son became head of the CIA, VP, and then president. One of his sons also became president, and almost another one.
If we don't remember what history was really like, we're doomed to keep being surprised when the same shit keeps happening.
Ya, CCCP started it all with Hitler, later on the USA was forced in to the war.
Don't forget.
Edit, to clarify: the USA was forced into the war, later on, they didn't enter voluntarily. The nazis and the soviets kicked off ww2 in 1939. Sorry for the confusion.
Edit again:
Whut?
Is this an attempt at a joke or do you really believe that?
It's hard to tell these days when someone is just pretending
Heard about the ribbentrop molotov pact?
That was what kicked it all off.
Alright, let’s clear this up. The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact wasn’t what brought the US into WWII. That pact was a non-aggression agreement between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union signed in August 1939, which allowed both powers to avoid fighting each other while they focused on expanding their influence in Europe. This agreement directly led to the invasion of Poland and the start of WWII in Europe, but it didn't prompt US involvement.
The US didn’t enter the war until December 1941, over two years later, after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. That was the actual catalyst. Up until then, despite plenty of pro-Nazi and anti-Nazi sentiments among the populace, the US had largely followed an isolationist policy, though they supported the Allies with programs like Lend-Lease to aid Britain. The US's decision to go to war was mostly a response to Japanese aggression, and Germany’s declaration of war on the US shortly afterward sealed the deal for full US involvement in both the Pacific and European theaters.
So yeah, the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact was important for starting the conflict in Europe, but it wasn’t why the US entered WWII.
I didn't say it brought USA into the war, I said it was what kicked off ww2 and it was the fault of the soviets + nazi germany.
You are correct, but you misunderstood me, or I wasn't clear enough.
Edit: I was not clear enough, I edited my post. In my mind the two things were separate, I just didn't have the writing skills.
You literally did
Now, perhaps this isn't what you meant to say. It is, however, what you said
It's two things, separated by a comma. Like apples are green, I went to the doctor yesterday. Not very good writing I admit.
No. I mean, congrats on the mental gymnastics needed to somehow blame it on communists, but no.
WW2 was caused by thoss dastardly Judeo Bolsheviks.
So splitting up poland and the baltics wasn't what started ww2?
Let's hear your version.
Are you familiar with the concept of a casus belli or are you just cognitively impaired?
So it's time for insults.
Yeah the great Soviet Union started off WW2 with Nazi Germany, like it or not. I know they don't teach that in some countries and call it "the great patriotic war" instead. Yo know, to muddy the waters.
No insult needed, but talking to you feels like watching a fish try to climb a tree. The only thing that's muddy is your understanding of history. Hopefully, you'll get better at it after a few months in a laojiao camp.
Oh, a tankie, that explains so much.