chapotraphouse

13530 readers

1335 users here now

Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.

No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer

Gossip posts go in c/gossip. Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from c/gossip

founded 3 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

171

But that is NOT a plan for the working class. It says so right in the fucking title. (hexbear.net)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

60 comments fedilink hide all child comments

https://subium.com/profile/michaelhobbes.bsky.social/post/3lam2fniy2w2q

---

Edit

I forgot to mention this...

No results found for "working class" site:kamalaharris.com/.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

, it seems like people misidentify the middle class with the working class because they literally "work".

As I understand it "working class" encompasses anyone whose income comes from working regardless of how well off they are, as distinct from people whose income comes from owning shit (stocks or other rent seeking). Am I off base here?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In the Marxist sense, yes that’s what proletarian means.

In the Liberal sense, working class and middle class are two separate and distinct classes. One is poor and the other is financially comfortable.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Yeah every word basically has a liberal version and a Marxist (working class, labor aristocrat, imperialism etc)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Kind of yeah. It's why marxists use more specific terms like proletariat, peasant, petit bourgeois, labor aristocrat, comprador, PMC etc to convey extra nuance.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

When a Marxist is trying to avoid saying "proletariat", that is the definition they will use, but that is absolutely not the common American definition.