chapotraphouse

many of their left wingers are more radical than Occupy Wall Street (and even Bernie)

thats an understatement. i have told friends about the maoist reforms and been met with "when can we do that here lol". i can big up Stalin and say that billionaires/CEOs have it coming and get literally 0 pushback. talking to older people about the uhygur bullshit gets me accused of genocide denial or fake news and is always an uphill battle, but people my age take "well obviously the news is saying awful shit about china, its owned by ultrarich americans who have a vested interest in lying to you lmao" as a fairly obvious answer. i've only ever encountered pushback from one zoomer and it was requests for sources from a ex-right-voting centrist at work.

i know my sample is biased by not being in the us and being openly a communist, but i don't think the problem is that the zoomer left (or, imo, the vast majority of zoomers who aren't straight up fash) aren't amenable to socialism, its that we are MASSIVELY disillusioned. no one under 30 in the west has actually been helped by the political establishment. nothing has ever gotten better, and the current projections are that nothing ever will. we're not against the far left or whatever; we're just absolute and utter doomers