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He got me to read the Manifesto and would have hours' long debates with our social-democratic roommate and now this. It's really shaking me up a bit.

He is on the whole defeatist 'nothing will fundamentally shake the imperial machine so might as well pick the wardog with better domestic policies' tip. I want to get through to him but I am getting stuck.

For example:

i also refuse to not vote my conscience but i figured this time its not like doing this abstract process to pick if id prefer -100 points vs -200 points is gonna matter that much if i genuinely believe itll even be slightly better under kamala i might as well

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

He has capitulated to this shithole society and is a knowing supporter of the genocide. It's one thing to be politically ignorant about what's going on in Gaza, but he has no excuse. He knows that the IOF is beheading Palestinian children with bombs and he is still going to support the party who gave the IOF the bombs anyways. This is betrayal. All that doomer nonsense is just that: nonsense. If he was a true doomer, he wouldn't bother voting. He would just be like my dad who last voted in the 2000 election and completely checked out from politics since then (his politics suck, so that's a good thing). George Carlin in his later years when he mocked people who wasted their time voting saying that he got more to show for it by beating his meat could be said to be a doomer. Your friend is just a polite supporter of genocide.