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Case of Anthony Thomas ‘TJ’ Hoover II is under investigation by state and federal government officials

A man who had gone into cardiac arrest and been declared brain dead woke up as surgeons in his home state of Kentucky were in the middle of harvesting his organs for donation, his family has told media outlets.

As reported Thursday by both National Public Radio and the Kentucky news station WKYT, the case of Anthony Thomas "TJ" Hoover II is under investigation by state and federal government officials. Officials within the US's organ-procurement system insist there are safeguards in place to prevent such episodes, though his family told the outlets their experience highlights a need for at least some reform.

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WKYT reported that Rhorer only learned the full details of her brother's surgery at the hands of Baptist and the Kentucky Organ Donor Affiliates (Koda) in January. That's when a former employee of Koda contacted her before sending a letter to a congressional committee that in September held a hearing scrutinizing organ-procurement organizations, NPR reported.

The letter's author said she saw Hoover begin "thrashing" around on the operating table as well as start "crying visibly", according to NPR.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The articles about this specify that it was the doctors that refused to perform the operation.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just like a doctor to take credit for a good job done by a nurse

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As the son of a doctor, this is a very funny joke. Good work

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You may be the son of a nurse, and just another thing a doctor came in and took the credit for after the fact.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Technically, I guess the doctor is being given credit for the biological work of a pilot, not a nurse. And nobody likes the pilot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Jokes are especially funny when they're true

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's usually a team effort. Usually when we're disagreeing it's some tiny little thing like how much sedation or pain or anxiety medication is needed, or which specific modality of treatment is indicated for something. The pain and anxiety thing can also go either way, sometimes it's the nurses wanting more meds for the patient and sometimes they're thinking less should be used and same for the doctors. And the other common disagreement is usually a disagreement of statistics vs lived experience, so the doctors are looking at the big picture of how things play out across large populations in places across the country or even world, vs nurses are thinking more in terms of their specific population and environment and what their specific team is trained and experienced at pulling off. Big picture vs individualized. There's also some overlap though, they're pushing more nurses especially in higher ed to learn more about stats and they're pushing doctors to individualize things to their patients and teams.

This is all to say that there are a lot of extreme moments where we'll both just look at each other like what in the actual fuck is happening. We don't always agree on the exact solution but we can usually at least come to a rapid consensus that what is currently happening is unacceptable.