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Qin Shihuang ~~apocryphaly~~ (sp?) allegedly ordered the mass burning of Confucian texts and live burial of scholars in an effort to solidify ideology and history, combat heterodoxy, introduce 'legalism' as a system of just rule and create a concept of unified China. So he has this reputation as a despot. Memes being memes took this to be that he shot fireballs from his hands to destroy heretics. I don't think there's much more to it than that.
Theres also this alleged mao quote
But it sounds fake as fuck
But, I suppose some in the CPC view him as a historically "progressive" figure who overthrew a decentralized feudal society and instituted a authoritarian bureaucratic state, or it might simply but a nationalist thing since he is the first emperor of a unified China
I went searching for an attribution for that quote and found nothing, but did turn up this Guardian article which has this quote:
HOW DID THE BRITISH MUSEUM GET THOSE ARTIFACTS MACGREGOR. HOW
So the translated quote above elides the lines
Which puts the rest of the quote in context of the work China put in to secure the gains of the revolution, rather than engage in anti-intellectualism for its own sake. The mocking tone Mao strikes here is also reinforced by the final parenthetical (大笑) laughter
At least this is my interpretation of the quote based on my own shitty translation/understanding. Thanks for finding it
Tongue-in-cheek?
If Mao is ok making this joke I'm ok making unlimited genocide on the first world jokes.
lol
God I love mao so much
every "questionable" thing he's ever quoted on i'm just like
The brother never missed.
They liked him because he hated Confucians and brought China out of the Warring States period, which Chinese people see as a parallel to the Warlord era that the CPC brought China out of.
In the modern day replace scholars with US Journalists and burying them alive starts to sound like a really great idea.
Can we do this with Gamers™
I'll allow it if the "scholars" are business/econ majors in the West or
Edit: Read the replies below and happy to know that this is the case — the quote is so much more based with context
I've seen recent efforts to repair the popular image of QSH, similar to efforts to reinstate Caocao's image as a judicious ruler against the Confucian-backed Liu Bei. I'm not enough of a history geek to really understand it but it's interesting nonetheless. Sure others can chime in
i dont know the answer to this but one thing i can say for certain is in my expert opinion as an enjoyer of historical cdramas life sucked for most people back in the old days.
If it's particularly for the purpose of killing Confucianism, I think that's a good thing.