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Every developed country has this info on it's citizenry, heck most developing countries these days do to. You're arguing basic bureaucracy is totalitarian.
And most countries have some means of keeping track of this too if they suspect you're guilty of a crime. Again, describing this as some unique "evil" makes no sense, any sort of state administration does this, you have to prove it's frequently being deployed in a extremely malicious way before you can argue any state is more "authoritarian" or whatever than any other.
Okay I take it you're an anarchist then.
Fine, but then you really shouldn't be focusing on China. The US is just as guilty of this, more so I'd argue, especially if we're not just arguing domestically. Whatever country you're from is also guilty of this. Every country is.
The things you listed are so mundane it seems totally asinine to focus your criticism on China. You can literally say this about fucking Andorra 🇦🇩
It's like if you said you hated Bob but when I asked you why you listened a bunch of flaws most humans have and when I point that out to you, you retort "well I hate most people". Okay, why are we discussing Bob then?
Because there's already an entire media empire dedicated to shitting on Bob. One person says something mildly positive about Bob yet you feel the need to jump in and reiterate the shit the media already tells us despite it being totally pointless.
I'm trying to get you to question whether you ACTUALLY hate all states equally or if certain media forces have gotten you to focus needless ire towards particular ones while giving only token criticisms of others.
As someone who lives in the west I have barley any exposure to Chinese media.
And criticisms of the west focus on real shit we're doing. Like Soviet propaganda was just, "look at what they're doing, its bad". Whereas our propaganda has to make shit up. Chinas criticisms of the west are far more likely to be real than ours of them
Honestly most of the news that gets posted here is from western sources anyway, the evidence the west is bad is so strong even western media can't really hide it. Obscuring it really relies on insisting other people are worse.
CGTN is communizing the poor western children and their colonial subjects.
What is good/worth preserving about "the west"?
Who gives a fuck, cry like more of a lib about it
Nothing brings me greater pleasure than the knowledge that, barring the west starting nuclear war, China is just going to advance more and more exponentially every year and folks like you are just gonna have to invent new ways to mald over it.
this is the worst bait account I've ever seen, please try to do better next time, it's embarrassing.