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[–] takeda@lemmy.world 111 points 2 years ago (3 children) Obese is a medical term though and Dr ... PhD should know that. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not necessarily, a PhD isn't a medical degree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wogi@lemmy.world 103 points 2 years ago Ok I looked her up, I had to know. She's a "fat-affirming" dietitian and her PhD is in "body positive medicine" Her name is a blatant pun. I don't think I'm reaching when I say not only is the account fake, this person doesn't exist, but that it was made to make fun of fat people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] teegus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Sooo you're saying it's understandable for someone with a PhD to not have basic common knowledge? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago I mean, sure. As someone who recently went back to school and is around a bunch of PhD and PhD students, they're really, really smart... about their specific area of study. But more than some of them are fucking stupid when it comes to other, normal things permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago I've got one, and there are many many thing I'm an idiot on permalink fedilink source parent [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh yeah. A PhD means you hyperspecialized for years. You get one by being the expert and advancing your field in, usually, one tiny tiny area. For anything that isn't that tiny area? Likely to be a stupid as anyone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago (3 children) Also, I don't agree with the OP and think it's fucking dumb, but let's not forget that "retard" used to be a medical term as well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's the way these things have always gone and probably always will. Retarded, imbecile, idiot, these were all effectively clinical terms (or whatever best approximated clinical practice in their eras) - they didn't hold an insulting intention initially. People co-opted the terms to make fun of each other, as we do, and so professionals had to shift the clinical vocabulary so they weren't using commonly hurled insults when discussing patients. And that means new words people can use to make fun of each other, yay! Which of course they did, necessitating another rotation. Pretty hilarious if you ask me. The most recent example in my own life - my wife is in her mid 30s, and is pregnant - some medical professionals call this a "geriatric pregnancy"! But because some folks are getting offended by that term, they're starting to use "advanced maternal age pregnancy". Bit of a mouthful, I think they'll get to keep that one. Anyway. Carlin had a great bit on this phenomena, he's the one who pointed it out to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've heard this called the "euphemism treadmill" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I like it, very succinct way to get the point across. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mPony@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago As usual, George Carlin should be the go-to for matters of language I see that someone wrote their thesis on it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elephantium@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Why does that upset/startle you? Pregnancy at age 35+ is associated with more risks than pregnancy in the 20s. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Seleni@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago It is, though—women having children later in life are at higher risk for complications for both themselves and the baby. It also has a higher risk of birth defects. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) As was "negro" - and that's kinda the point; just because a word is "official" doesn't make it not discriminatory, just that the discrimination was backed by the power of institutions. I don't 100% buy the argument that the two words are equivalent, but I can see how "oh you can't come here you are obese" could feel similarly arbitrary as "oh you can't come here you are black" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anivia@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* That comparison is so bad that I'm not sure you are making it in good faith. Being mentally handicapped or belonging to a minority is not a choice, being obese is. If you make the conscious choice to be obese you really can't complain about the consequences the same way the former can. And you especially can't complain about people referring to you by the medically correct term permalink fedilink source parent [–] QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Hello yes my name is Dr. PhD I have many college and come to bringun you the health. stat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not necessarily, a PhD isn't a medical degree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wogi@lemmy.world 103 points 2 years ago Ok I looked her up, I had to know. She's a "fat-affirming" dietitian and her PhD is in "body positive medicine" Her name is a blatant pun. I don't think I'm reaching when I say not only is the account fake, this person doesn't exist, but that it was made to make fun of fat people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] teegus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Sooo you're saying it's understandable for someone with a PhD to not have basic common knowledge? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago I mean, sure. As someone who recently went back to school and is around a bunch of PhD and PhD students, they're really, really smart... about their specific area of study. But more than some of them are fucking stupid when it comes to other, normal things permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago I've got one, and there are many many thing I'm an idiot on permalink fedilink source parent [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh yeah. A PhD means you hyperspecialized for years. You get one by being the expert and advancing your field in, usually, one tiny tiny area. For anything that isn't that tiny area? Likely to be a stupid as anyone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 103 points 2 years ago Ok I looked her up, I had to know. She's a "fat-affirming" dietitian and her PhD is in "body positive medicine" Her name is a blatant pun. I don't think I'm reaching when I say not only is the account fake, this person doesn't exist, but that it was made to make fun of fat people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teegus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Sooo you're saying it's understandable for someone with a PhD to not have basic common knowledge? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago I mean, sure. As someone who recently went back to school and is around a bunch of PhD and PhD students, they're really, really smart... about their specific area of study. But more than some of them are fucking stupid when it comes to other, normal things permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago I've got one, and there are many many thing I'm an idiot on permalink fedilink source parent [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh yeah. A PhD means you hyperspecialized for years. You get one by being the expert and advancing your field in, usually, one tiny tiny area. For anything that isn't that tiny area? Likely to be a stupid as anyone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago I mean, sure. As someone who recently went back to school and is around a bunch of PhD and PhD students, they're really, really smart... about their specific area of study. But more than some of them are fucking stupid when it comes to other, normal things permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago I've got one, and there are many many thing I'm an idiot on permalink fedilink source parent
[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh yeah. A PhD means you hyperspecialized for years. You get one by being the expert and advancing your field in, usually, one tiny tiny area. For anything that isn't that tiny area? Likely to be a stupid as anyone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago (3 children) Also, I don't agree with the OP and think it's fucking dumb, but let's not forget that "retard" used to be a medical term as well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's the way these things have always gone and probably always will. Retarded, imbecile, idiot, these were all effectively clinical terms (or whatever best approximated clinical practice in their eras) - they didn't hold an insulting intention initially. People co-opted the terms to make fun of each other, as we do, and so professionals had to shift the clinical vocabulary so they weren't using commonly hurled insults when discussing patients. And that means new words people can use to make fun of each other, yay! Which of course they did, necessitating another rotation. Pretty hilarious if you ask me. The most recent example in my own life - my wife is in her mid 30s, and is pregnant - some medical professionals call this a "geriatric pregnancy"! But because some folks are getting offended by that term, they're starting to use "advanced maternal age pregnancy". Bit of a mouthful, I think they'll get to keep that one. Anyway. Carlin had a great bit on this phenomena, he's the one who pointed it out to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've heard this called the "euphemism treadmill" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I like it, very succinct way to get the point across. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mPony@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago As usual, George Carlin should be the go-to for matters of language I see that someone wrote their thesis on it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elephantium@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Why does that upset/startle you? Pregnancy at age 35+ is associated with more risks than pregnancy in the 20s. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Seleni@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago It is, though—women having children later in life are at higher risk for complications for both themselves and the baby. It also has a higher risk of birth defects. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) As was "negro" - and that's kinda the point; just because a word is "official" doesn't make it not discriminatory, just that the discrimination was backed by the power of institutions. I don't 100% buy the argument that the two words are equivalent, but I can see how "oh you can't come here you are obese" could feel similarly arbitrary as "oh you can't come here you are black" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anivia@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* That comparison is so bad that I'm not sure you are making it in good faith. Being mentally handicapped or belonging to a minority is not a choice, being obese is. If you make the conscious choice to be obese you really can't complain about the consequences the same way the former can. And you especially can't complain about people referring to you by the medically correct term permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's the way these things have always gone and probably always will. Retarded, imbecile, idiot, these were all effectively clinical terms (or whatever best approximated clinical practice in their eras) - they didn't hold an insulting intention initially. People co-opted the terms to make fun of each other, as we do, and so professionals had to shift the clinical vocabulary so they weren't using commonly hurled insults when discussing patients. And that means new words people can use to make fun of each other, yay! Which of course they did, necessitating another rotation. Pretty hilarious if you ask me. The most recent example in my own life - my wife is in her mid 30s, and is pregnant - some medical professionals call this a "geriatric pregnancy"! But because some folks are getting offended by that term, they're starting to use "advanced maternal age pregnancy". Bit of a mouthful, I think they'll get to keep that one. Anyway. Carlin had a great bit on this phenomena, he's the one who pointed it out to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've heard this called the "euphemism treadmill" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I like it, very succinct way to get the point across. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mPony@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago As usual, George Carlin should be the go-to for matters of language I see that someone wrote their thesis on it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elephantium@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Why does that upset/startle you? Pregnancy at age 35+ is associated with more risks than pregnancy in the 20s. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Seleni@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago It is, though—women having children later in life are at higher risk for complications for both themselves and the baby. It also has a higher risk of birth defects. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've heard this called the "euphemism treadmill" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I like it, very succinct way to get the point across. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mPony@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago As usual, George Carlin should be the go-to for matters of language I see that someone wrote their thesis on it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I like it, very succinct way to get the point across. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mPony@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago As usual, George Carlin should be the go-to for matters of language I see that someone wrote their thesis on it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elephantium@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Why does that upset/startle you? Pregnancy at age 35+ is associated with more risks than pregnancy in the 20s. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Seleni@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago It is, though—women having children later in life are at higher risk for complications for both themselves and the baby. It also has a higher risk of birth defects. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Why does that upset/startle you? Pregnancy at age 35+ is associated with more risks than pregnancy in the 20s. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago It is, though—women having children later in life are at higher risk for complications for both themselves and the baby. It also has a higher risk of birth defects. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) As was "negro" - and that's kinda the point; just because a word is "official" doesn't make it not discriminatory, just that the discrimination was backed by the power of institutions. I don't 100% buy the argument that the two words are equivalent, but I can see how "oh you can't come here you are obese" could feel similarly arbitrary as "oh you can't come here you are black" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anivia@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* That comparison is so bad that I'm not sure you are making it in good faith. Being mentally handicapped or belonging to a minority is not a choice, being obese is. If you make the conscious choice to be obese you really can't complain about the consequences the same way the former can. And you especially can't complain about people referring to you by the medically correct term permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anivia@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* That comparison is so bad that I'm not sure you are making it in good faith. Being mentally handicapped or belonging to a minority is not a choice, being obese is. If you make the conscious choice to be obese you really can't complain about the consequences the same way the former can. And you especially can't complain about people referring to you by the medically correct term permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Hello yes my name is Dr. PhD I have many college and come to bringun you the health. stat. permalink fedilink source parent