▲ 1495 ▼ obesity (programming.dev) submitted 2 years ago by Europa_The_Last_Battle@programming.dev to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 164 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago (3 children) Also, I don't agree with the OP and think it's fucking dumb, but let's not forget that "retard" used to be a medical term as well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's the way these things have always gone and probably always will. Retarded, imbecile, idiot, these were all effectively clinical terms (or whatever best approximated clinical practice in their eras) - they didn't hold an insulting intention initially. People co-opted the terms to make fun of each other, as we do, and so professionals had to shift the clinical vocabulary so they weren't using commonly hurled insults when discussing patients. And that means new words people can use to make fun of each other, yay! Which of course they did, necessitating another rotation. Pretty hilarious if you ask me. The most recent example in my own life - my wife is in her mid 30s, and is pregnant - some medical professionals call this a "geriatric pregnancy"! But because some folks are getting offended by that term, they're starting to use "advanced maternal age pregnancy". Bit of a mouthful, I think they'll get to keep that one. Anyway. Carlin had a great bit on this phenomena, he's the one who pointed it out to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've heard this called the "euphemism treadmill" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I like it, very succinct way to get the point across. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mPony@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago As usual, George Carlin should be the go-to for matters of language I see that someone wrote their thesis on it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elephantium@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Why does that upset/startle you? Pregnancy at age 35+ is associated with more risks than pregnancy in the 20s. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Seleni@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago It is, though—women having children later in life are at higher risk for complications for both themselves and the baby. It also has a higher risk of birth defects. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) As was "negro" - and that's kinda the point; just because a word is "official" doesn't make it not discriminatory, just that the discrimination was backed by the power of institutions. I don't 100% buy the argument that the two words are equivalent, but I can see how "oh you can't come here you are obese" could feel similarly arbitrary as "oh you can't come here you are black" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anivia@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* That comparison is so bad that I'm not sure you are making it in good faith. Being mentally handicapped or belonging to a minority is not a choice, being obese is. If you make the conscious choice to be obese you really can't complain about the consequences the same way the former can. And you especially can't complain about people referring to you by the medically correct term permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's the way these things have always gone and probably always will. Retarded, imbecile, idiot, these were all effectively clinical terms (or whatever best approximated clinical practice in their eras) - they didn't hold an insulting intention initially. People co-opted the terms to make fun of each other, as we do, and so professionals had to shift the clinical vocabulary so they weren't using commonly hurled insults when discussing patients. And that means new words people can use to make fun of each other, yay! Which of course they did, necessitating another rotation. Pretty hilarious if you ask me. The most recent example in my own life - my wife is in her mid 30s, and is pregnant - some medical professionals call this a "geriatric pregnancy"! But because some folks are getting offended by that term, they're starting to use "advanced maternal age pregnancy". Bit of a mouthful, I think they'll get to keep that one. Anyway. Carlin had a great bit on this phenomena, he's the one who pointed it out to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've heard this called the "euphemism treadmill" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I like it, very succinct way to get the point across. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mPony@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago As usual, George Carlin should be the go-to for matters of language I see that someone wrote their thesis on it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elephantium@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Why does that upset/startle you? Pregnancy at age 35+ is associated with more risks than pregnancy in the 20s. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Seleni@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago It is, though—women having children later in life are at higher risk for complications for both themselves and the baby. It also has a higher risk of birth defects. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've heard this called the "euphemism treadmill" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I like it, very succinct way to get the point across. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mPony@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago As usual, George Carlin should be the go-to for matters of language I see that someone wrote their thesis on it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I like it, very succinct way to get the point across. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mPony@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago As usual, George Carlin should be the go-to for matters of language I see that someone wrote their thesis on it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] elephantium@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Why does that upset/startle you? Pregnancy at age 35+ is associated with more risks than pregnancy in the 20s. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Seleni@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago It is, though—women having children later in life are at higher risk for complications for both themselves and the baby. It also has a higher risk of birth defects. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Why does that upset/startle you? Pregnancy at age 35+ is associated with more risks than pregnancy in the 20s. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago It is, though—women having children later in life are at higher risk for complications for both themselves and the baby. It also has a higher risk of birth defects. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) As was "negro" - and that's kinda the point; just because a word is "official" doesn't make it not discriminatory, just that the discrimination was backed by the power of institutions. I don't 100% buy the argument that the two words are equivalent, but I can see how "oh you can't come here you are obese" could feel similarly arbitrary as "oh you can't come here you are black" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anivia@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* That comparison is so bad that I'm not sure you are making it in good faith. Being mentally handicapped or belonging to a minority is not a choice, being obese is. If you make the conscious choice to be obese you really can't complain about the consequences the same way the former can. And you especially can't complain about people referring to you by the medically correct term permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anivia@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* That comparison is so bad that I'm not sure you are making it in good faith. Being mentally handicapped or belonging to a minority is not a choice, being obese is. If you make the conscious choice to be obese you really can't complain about the consequences the same way the former can. And you especially can't complain about people referring to you by the medically correct term permalink fedilink source parent