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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The collapse of society isn't bad for everyone. Things actually won't get worse for some people right before the collapse. Some people may have their lives turnaround. Some will be successful. The collapse will happen and they'll keep on going and be just fine in whatever comes after the collapse. Just like "a rising tide raises all ships" is wrong so is "a falling tide sinks all ships"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Depends heavily what is your definition of successful here. No serious leftist considers the excesses and psychopathic standards of the rich westerner as a "successful" way of life.

Sure from their own capitalist perspective you're not wrong, but in the long term these rich 20yo billionaires today wont make it to 50, hell dreaming of living like Buffet in his 93s out of question. There wont be billionaire bunkers in New Zealand. That is absolutely not how climate change works but that is splitting hairs I guess, American balkanization is not the worst thing they have to worry about lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I think my real issue here is how I think it's going to end. I don't really believe that one day all the rich people will suddenly regret being rich because they realize them being rich caused oceans to boil and everyone to die. There's not a current 20 year old billionaire who will be killed by a mob of poor climate refugees in a mad max wasteland. That's the fantasy, and the desire of people like us. We want that catharsis and day of penance but it's about 90% sure not going to happen.

It's not so much a statement that the wealthy can be protected by their own delusions (ie climate bunkers), just that I don't like this secular version of Rapture.