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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I was repeatedly taught the south won the civil war and that we should regularly pray to the American flag

Like I did also get taught stuff like algebra and how to write an essay, sure. But every other second of the day was full of fundamentalist worship of America and the flag and blah blah

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

At a local community college I took an American history course and the professor taught the civil war as The War of Northern Aggression

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Try Katy, TX in the 90s -- I was once involved with someone who grew up there, and claimed to have lived on an anarchist commune during her brief stint in college, and one day she just starts dropping this matter-of-fact "war of northern aggression" / "not about slavery" / "states' rights" bullshit on me out of the blue, having apparently been taught all of it in either middle school or high school history.

Houston-area suburbanites. Not even once.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This was on the outskirts of Houston, so that checks out

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

We need to shut down Texas until we can figure out what in the hell is going on. ERCOT is already working on it, probably.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fucking how? I can get someone saying the south were in the right(it's called being a racist), but there is no confederate states anymore. If you try to secede and end up still part of the country, you did not win.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Most of the time it was some religious conceit, like the south still has Christianity therefore they won. It often came down to shifting goal posts or concepts not related to the goals of the confederacy. Like I was told the goal of the north was to make whites into slaves for black people, or to completely erase the southern states, or to eliminate Christianity. These goals weren't accomplished, so this gets spun into a victory for the south somehow. Reminds me of how current day liberals will claim Ukraine is winning because the entire country isn't annexed, even if that wasn't Russia's goal

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wait, European here. The south won?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I grew up in the south, so there's a lot of residual resentment against the outcome of the civil war. This has resulted in a bunch of alt-history where some, particularly racist southerners will claim the south actually won, or should have won, or blah blah.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Never knew that was a thing. I can understand the resentment shortly after the war, but this long..wow. I actually thought education was something agreed upon on a national level.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah education is handled nationally, we have a department of education, but my high school was staffed with unqualified teachers who would flagrantly ignore national standards. My school in particular kept getting lawsuits for making students pray during school hours, for instance.