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[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago (13 children)

atheism is the answer. until we as a whole reject religion, these incidents will be recurring.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I know homophobes that are atheists. while religion being gone would decrease it, do not expect it to be gone just because of that. People will always have issues with people different than they are.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (21 children)

yes, but with religion out of the way, we can implement better education to reduce 'otherism' bias. i am convinced that the only obstacles stopping us from being better humans are all rooted in BS fairy tales.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

You can be convinced, you will be wrong though. Religion is a means of justifying otherism, not the origin of it. People will just create another bunch of bullshit to justify why they aren't bad people.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

While true they won't have a belief system that backs it up, it won't have the power behind it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are smart homophobes. They use science, however flawed it is, to promote their arguments. Cutting out religion would take care of the few vocal people who genuinely believe being gay is against their religion but it definitely wouldn't take care of the larger problem which has always been xenophobia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No one is going to vote for science, give me a break. You don't drive people to the polls based on a study or a syllogism, you get people to vote for you based on FUD. Fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

Religion is freaken awesome at this.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They will just create a different one, like the atheists that are homophobic have.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't work. USSR murdered and prisoned both religious people and gay people alike. The answer is not being a fucking cockwomble, which is admittedly more easily done if you're an atheist, but by no means is a guarantee.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

agreed! but the path to not being a cockwomble aligns pretty well with the goals of a reason based, humanitarian, secular society.

if you don't agree, what's your path towards our common goal?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Don't think you solve the problem of intolerance with bigotry towards religious people.

The article doesn't mention anything about the group of men being religious, you're just using this as an opportunity to attack religion because that's something you hate.

Hatred doesn't solve anything.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (19 children)

Not necessarily. Plenty of chill religious people and unchill atheists. Russian homophobia, for instance, is generally secular.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Well those Jehovah witnesses weren't going to ship themselves to Siberia.

Some call it divine intervention by the state.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

We were talking about homophobia. The concentrated effort to suppress religiosity is a whole other can of worms.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

7 decades ago.....

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Really? So why is that Krill East Orthodox Shaman announcing he hates gays every single week?

Also show me the religious Muslim who isn't a homophobe

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Homophobia and Atheism aren't mutually exclusive to one another, hell I know plenty of Atheist Transphobes.. some of whom used to be gay allies until they were radicalized by the Alt Right.

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