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Musk is a pissbaby, but I'll whiteknight spacex until they blow up a tourist.
They avoided this by just not performing contracted missions
https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-dearmoon-crew-reacts-private-mission-canceled
Probably for the better
This wasn't a SpaceX decision though. The guy who contracted them is the one who cancelled the mission. Mostly because the rocket is not ready yet and he was sick of waiting.
The mission was contracted for 2023, which already passed. I know SpaceX didn't cancel it (why would they of they can just move the date into the future indefinitely) and that's why I said they didn't perform it. But the result is the same and the reaction of the client understandable. Any sane party will cancel a contract when they see that the other party is unable to fulfill their offer.
Surely the fault lies with the client who decided to sign a contract, fully understanding that it was all theoretical and based entirely on future projections, that may or may not be accurate.
It's not like he was lied to and thought that the ship already existed, or was only a couple of months away from completion.
Yeah, when I miss the deadline, it's also not my decision to "cancel the project".
They're still doing Polaris missions though right?
I guess? The comment I replied to said "tourist" though and Polaris is with a professional crew.
Oh, that sucks. I hadn't heard about that cancellation. Still, SpaceX set an unreasonable timeline and expectations of the client, and that should have consequences.
It's my main issue I have with the whole topic. Starting in 2017 or so, there were so many idiotic promises regarding space travel and all, this one included. Oh yeah and we'll colonize Mars btw. Like what are you people on? And now SpaceX is even behind on the contractual obligations to NASA, Artemis will not bring astronauts into moon's orbit this year. Now while do acknowledge that space travel is really hard, this was achieved almost 60 years ago already. What was promised does in no way match reality. Going to Mars was always unrealistic, but to me it feels like progress on ambitious yet achievable goals is worse than 60 years ago.
Blowing up rockets over protected swamplands and failing at things NASA learned decades ago isn’t enough for you?
Somehow Ive missed hearing about either of these
I first heard a full breakdown of the environmental regulatory aspects of SpaceX's operations in Tech Wont Save Us ep. 186 from September of last year. Definitely worth the listen (every episode of that show is worth the listen, in fact).
The launch site is bordered entirely by wildlife refuges and state parklands. The reason they blew up that rocket a while ago on 4/20 was because they didn’t want to get approval to dig a flame trench due to tight environmental restrictions in the area. Trenches that NASA realized were necessary over 50 years ago.
Here’s some articles if you don’t want to take my word for it:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/05/texas-spacex-elon-musk-environment-wildlife
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_deflector
Protected swamplands??
The Boca Chica test site in Texas is built immediately adjacent to a protected wildlife preserve. This is the site where SpaceX has been working on the Starship launch vehicle.
The second part about failing is extreme hyperbole. SpaceX is the most successful launch company in human history by any reasonable metric. I’d argue Musks distance from the company in recent years has helped.
That seems like a failure of the government to allow them to operate there.
Why whiteknight them at all?
Let them stand and and fall on their own merits
EDIT: lol @ the downvotes with no comments!
I promise I didn't downvote hahaha
It's fine it you downvote, but just tell me why you disagree with me on this topic.
Well I don't really simp for spacex, I'm just a fan of their rockets. I think they're really cool. I was just being dramatic :p