im too old and unfit to compete at anything!
To be fair, I am too! I still run, but lets just say, my halcyon days are behind me :P
im too old and unfit to compete at anything!
To be fair, I am too! I still run, but lets just say, my halcyon days are behind me :P
There also never seems to be any situations of FTM people excelling at sports like is reported of MTF. Happy to accept that might be a media bias issue.
There are no cases of trans fem folk excelling either. At least not trans fem folk on hormone replacement for a decent period of time.
You'll find studies talking about individual elements of physiology, and drawing extentions from that that. You'll find studies that don't take in to account the impacts of hormone replacement. And you'll find studies written by transphobes with an agenda that outright lie.
But what you won't find, no matter how hard you look, is any kind of evidence of systemic advantage. What you won't find is any kind of study that looks at real world sporting outcomes, and shows evidence of trans folk winning more than they should. You'll find plenty of examples of trans folk being accussed of having advantage for performing well, but unless your position is that trans folk can't compete unless they are actively disadvantaged, you should expect to see trans folk win sometimes, and place highly sometimes. That only becomes an issue when it occurs more than you would expect given the participation numbers, and it's at that point, the evidence evaporates.
I want to bring up Lia Thomas as a classic example of what the media portrayal looks like. She is portrayed as a mediocre swimmer, who became a great swimmer when she transitioned. But, there is bias at play in the way that story is told. In order to swim in the women's category, she needed to be on hormone replacement for a period of time (2 years from memory). During that time, her performance was impacted, but she was still forced to swim with men. And those are the stats that the transphobes will bring up, to call her a mediocre swimmer. If you look at her stats from before she started hormones, her performance was at an elite level. And after the impact of hormones, her performance was elite by women's standards too, but she set no world records, and she was soundly beat by many cis women. Yet the stories you hear, tell of a trans women breaking records, and magically becoming a contender. Because the stories are part of a wedge tactic, designed to normalise the idea of seperating trans women from cis women.
I'll also point you at this study...
https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/58/11/586.full
Conclusions
This research compares transgender male and transgender female athletes to their cisgender counterparts. Compared with cisgender women, transgender women have decreased lung function, increasing their work in breathing. Regardless of fat-free mass distribution, transgender women performed worse on the countermovement jump than cisgender women and CM. Although transgender women have comparable absolute V̇O2max values to cisgender women, when normalised for body weight, transgender women’s cardiovascular fitness is lower than CM and women. Therefore, this research shows the potential complexity of transgender athlete physiology and its effects on the laboratory measures of physical performance. A long-term longitudinal study is needed to confirm whether these findings are directly related to gender-affirming hormone therapy owing to the study’s shortcomings, particularly its cross-sectional design and limited sample size, which make confirming the causal effect of gender-affirmative care on sports performance problematic.
Now, it's guilty of the very thing I pointed out earlier. It looks at a single attribute in isolation, and draws conclusions from it. But when you compare it with studies that find advantage in other areas, it becomes clear, that the answer will not be found in studies highlight individual areas. What does an advantage in height mean for example, if offset by cardiovascular disadvantage?
There is a reason we don't see trans women dominating sports. And that's because they don't. Anything telling you otherwise, is pushing an agenda.
And of course, I'm pushing an agenda too. But my agenda is to not be excluded from the sports I love, and not to have sports used as an excuse to exclude me from other arease of society. My agenda is my safety.
I've posted things like this many times before, and rarely does it get anywhere, because people have already made up their mind. You claim to have not made up yours, but if you are reading this and your first instinct is to try and find rebuttals and arguments, then I'd suggest to you that maybe you have made up your mind already. If your first instinct wasn't a defensive desire to argue and debate the topic, then well, you're one of the rare ones...
Before I respond in detail, let me ask, are you open to the possibility of changing your position? Because most folk aren't, because facts don't change minds when positions are held emotionally.
If sporting bodies/scientists etc can find ways of managing the situation so it is proven to be fair then great (the paralympics have various categories for instance, off the top of my head why can't other sports?), but until then this insistence upon something that in many instances isn't fair in a sporting sense creates a wedge issue right wing types can and do exploit because the average sports fan
The vicious irony here is that the limited science there was, did show that trans folk competing with cis folk of the same gender either had no advantage, or the advantage was too small to identify without further study. Study that was impossible due to the very small number of trans folk actively in involved in sports to begin with.
Yet despite that, the right wing types created a wedge, and folk like you jumped on board
How they think rather than what they think. I recognised it in myself and have really tried to get passed it.
Then I'm genuinely asking you to do so here as well. For me, I'm trans, I used to be a semi elite runner, and a roller derby player. I've ran with men and women, and I've played roller derby with men and women. I also know the science around trans folk in sports. So I've lived this, experiencing it first hand, as well as having a very strong personal interest in following the science.
You are wrong on this.
Does the changes to bone structure and density and muscle composition fade away?
Literally, yes...
The fact that the dev behind brave is a homophobe isn't opt in though...
Mostly because they used to rule the world, but everything they touched wasn't gold, it was all yellow
Honestly, I think they're worse than people say. There might be the odd good news story to come out of them, but they are designed to get you to fork out cash, and stay around and keep forking out cash, so their whole goal is to feed you hope, without ever causing you to be successful enough to leave.
Yes, because exclusion is the point.
It's a hugely disruptive technology, that is harmful to the environment, being taken up and given center stage by a host of folk who don't understand it.
Like the industrial revolution, it has the chance to change the world in a massive way, but in doing so, it's going to fuck over a lot of people, and notch up greenhouse gas output. In a decade or two, we probably won't remember what life was like without them, but lots of people are going to be out of jobs, have their income streams cut off and have no alternatives available to them whilst that happens.
And whilst all of that is going on, we're getting told that it's the best most amazing thing that we all need, and it's being stuck in to everything, including things that don't benefit from the presence of an LLM, and sometimes, where the presence of an LLM can be actively harmful
Give us a crash course in the history of your world
me, trying to make a world history up on the fly, whilst not contradicting stuff I made up on the fly 6 sessions ago
Specifically, it occurs when the cows eat high volumes of clover or other nitrogen fixing plants (most legumes fall in to this category). Ruminants produce a lot of gas in their digestive process, because their stomachs are designed to ferment their food, allowing them to better access highly fibrous food sources like grass. Normally, they belch or fart the gas away, but in the case of nitrogen fixing clovers, they produce too much gas to be able to burp and fart away, and they end up with fatal bloating!
I remember learning this in school in rural Australia. The most amazing thing is that I still remember it :P