TemutheeChallahmet

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In my experience the more successful a black person is the more likely they are to be conspiratorial to reconcile their success with their ancestral legacy (How could black people have been slaves for so long, when I have this much potential? We must be native to the US, etc.), and the conspiracy world is often antisemitic, homophobic and enamored with Trump. Remember when Kanye said slavery must have been a choice to go on for 400 years? That strain of thought did not originate from him but is instead a whole political movement.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

An open secret is that among the black upper middle class there is an overrepresentation of misogynistic/homophobic/racist/conspiratorial army guys, cops, Christian guys, Black Muslim/hotep guys. Also, well educated conservative African and Caribbean immigrants.

Leftists and liberals do not really want to acknowledge this and don't want to acknowledge that the tradition, discipline and asceticism such people live by enable them a good degree of social mobility in the US generally unhindered by direct racism. People love saying that the "culture not race" argument is racist but these black folks I am describing will be the first people making that argument and nodding along to it, because to them that is the reality. They fear "urban" people in the same way as any old white Karen.

Both Dems and leftists sort of target their broad strokes messaging toward a swathe of POC and LGBTQ+ people and this inevitably lets the GOP peel off socially conservative members of these groups for whom racism or discrimination aren't really major day to day issues but taxes and banning LGBT education from schools are.

If the libs were more unapologetic on their affirmative action messaging (AA benefits such groups I'm describing most) and maybe announced sweeping targeted neighborhood revitalization efforts that improved the assimilation of inner city black kids, or blocked property valuation discrimination, all while telling the socially conservative people in marginalized groups that they are expected to coexist with people whose lifestyles they dislike but will be left alone otherwise, they might claw back some of the vote. But you all are blind if you think that the only people calling wayward black teen boys/girls "hoodlums/ghetto" are white boomers--rather than every black person I have ever known who does not live in a metropolitan area, including the liberal ones.

Tl;Dr most leftists and liberals who fight for better outcomes for black Americans do not really know that many middle class black people closely and so sometimes fail to craft messaging as resonant to their material realities as the GOP does.

Source: have been dating the same black partner for 6 years, and their father is a successful Trump and Alex Jones loving rich guy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yep, you think their idea of a chosen one leader or shifting loyalties between camps are from the Bible or history, but their mental model is actually the plotline from some show or movie they watched while eating.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I feel like these people who watch stuff like Critical Drinker get a respite from feeling uncool and maladapted to society by finally railing against stuff and getting attention for it. They derive pleasure from finding kinship in worthless grievances which prevents them from focusing on better things. They are being robbed of the experience of interacting awkwardly with the general public, learning you are a loser for some understandable reasons and correcting yourself and having more productive fixations.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I think this is just all Amerifat political discourse, our people think real life works the way movies do, which is why while Trump was flopping in office they had to make up that he was doing 4D chess or hiding his power, as if things were going to turn out like a climax in a double cross heist film.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I hope this guy keeps doing these, I really liked the time when Patrick Doran and Jesse Farrar would troll standup shots with joke memes like "I was sucking a dick like it's a crap" and draw confused anger. https://x.com/podaboutlist/status/1149360736625463301

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is ultimately just the carried over playground behavior from elementary school of calling a boy a girl, or a girl a boy whenever that person does something disliked or unconventional. Social media bubbles stunt maturity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

They went up but a lot of it was against Asians during COVID, so he certainly stoked volatile climates.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Haha they started AI generating real people for Hexbear to hate

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I have been thinking about how much Republican causes nowadays are just vapor, because they stemmed from thoroughly isolated echo chambers pumping partial info. It is hard to translate into any consequential action because it too easily peters out from a public challenge.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I would say that in this particular case a second Trump loss can be spun into "another stolen future" or some shit and galvanize MAGAs to riot more than they would if he won.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

One interesting thing about Elon allowing the r-slur to fly on Twitter, is seeing how often it now gets used to describe stuff like this and the people supporting it.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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