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[–] 228 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (14 children)

You can't delete any text in comments or posts either - or at least not reliably, as any federated instance could choose to ignore deletions.

You should basically consider what you write or post here public, and probably public for good. But here's the thing - same goes for the entire rest of the Internet as well, basically.

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  • [–] 128 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You should generally think similarly about anything you post anywhere on the internet that has open access. If it's viewable anonymously, anyone could save and mirror it.

    The only difference is it's almost guaranteed on a federated platform.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    I feel like, after over a decade of smartphones and snapchat and such, a younger generation needs to be thought better what putting content on the Internet means on a fundamental level, and those of us old enough to remember the more open web need to be reminded.

    If you don't want everyone to see it, and I mean everyone, then you shouldn't put it online. For all intents and purposes, once you hit send, it's now a part of the internet. You might get lucky and be able to remove it, but that's the exception, not the rule.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    And seemingly nothing is actually deleted, just hidden. Boost for Lemmy currently has an interesting bug where any comment, deleted or removed, can still be seen by simply selecting "copy post text" from the menu, as the API will return what was previously there.

    PSA, if you want to delete a comment or post, be absolutely sure you first edit it to be blank.

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  • [–] [S] 25 points 2 years ago (17 children)

    I didnt know about that. This is a bit scary to be honest, and the first time I feel a bit taken aback with lemmy

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  • [–] 63 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    You also know that all votes are technically public and can be viewed by any instance admin that's federated with the server a community is on, right? There's no way to see that in the Lemmy UI at the moment but the data is there on the server.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

    There's no way to see that in the Lemmy UI at the moment but the data is there on the server.

    Actually, they're adding it into the UI for admins. And they're letting mods see to.

    https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/2320

    Rather than do anything to try and protect this data or obfuscate it in any way, they just decided "fuck it".

    And that's frankly worrying. I truly don't think people understand why Reddit didn't let mods see that information. The avenues for abuse here are innumerable.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    The deletion should federate across almost all instances, but there's no guarantee and also someone will almost certainly one day set up an archive server that just listens to all activity on Lemmy like uneddit used to be for reddit.

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    [–] 139 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Welcome to the hell of being a lemmy admin. There's a reason why lemmy admins are fed up with the developers.

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  • [–] 112 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    For context, there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes when it comes to lemmy admin stuff especially in the matrix channels. There is a significant frustration and lack of confidence in the lemmy developers at this point. Even those who try to contribute to the project get eventually feeling pushed out.

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  • [–] 51 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Based on what I've seen on the public facing part of the developer side, I get the feeling this isn't the kind of group that can build the kind of organization required to make this sustainable in the long run.

    I'm just waiting for when Beehaw releases that they've given up on Lemmy and have created a new tech stack.

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  • [–] 78 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    So what have they been doing to nuke the csam images, editing the database directly?

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  • [–] 66 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Often just nuking all image uploads made during a certain time period. Which is why old image threads in Lemmy have time periods littered with broken images.

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    [–] 64 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    So when I accidentally uploaded those Death Star plans...

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    [–] 52 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    How exactly does Lemmy remain in compliance with laws regarding, for example, a user's right to have all data associated with their account deleted (right to erasure, etc), or ensure that it is only kept for a time period reasonable while the user is actively using your services (data protection retention periods, etc)?

    It's not a big deal for me, just strange to think Lemmy of all places would be built to be so anti user's data rights. The user is ultimately the one that decides what is done with their information/property, after all.

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Lemmy is not a singular software or website, every instance on its own need to ensure compliance with their respective laws where they are domiciled.

    But if instance A is domiciled in the EU, and the content mirrored to instance B in Zimbabwe, where no right to be forgotten exists, then a user of instance A can't invoke any laws beyond what the local admin can control.

    That's amazing for high availability of content - it's essentially mirrored in perpetuity - but a nightmare for privacy advocates. AFAIK there haven't been any court cases related to deletion requests, so that's still virgin territory.

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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    That is crazy. He really did seem knowledgeable, and apart from the upload of a sensitive image, he really did what he could.

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    Dear aussie.zone users,

    I can delete photos. Just give me the url of the photo you need killed and I'll happily delete it for you. But also, don't (accidentally) upload a nude.

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    [–] 40 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    What exactly is a KYC selfie? Is it a photo of an ID card? I figured out WUI is WebUI. The author uses some strange acronyms I never heard before.

    It's very American that they can steal your identity with just one photo. My European state issued ID has data on both sides, so if someone would take a photo of it won't be enough for anything. Also if you loose it you just get a new one and noone can use the old one for anything.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago

    KYC is Business/Finance lingo - "Know Your Client".

    Yeah the fact that exposing one number/piece of information puts you at risk to a significant amount of other information about you being exposed is peak USA.

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    [–] 39 points 2 years ago (12 children)
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    [–] 34 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I hate to use it, but this is why I still find imgur useful. It works.

    Some stuff on Lemmy just doesn’t have a robust feature set yet. Especially around content moderation.

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    [–] 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

    I’m a developer of a Lemmy client. When you upload an image to a Lemmy instance, the instance returns a “delete token”. Later, you can ask the instance to delete the image attached to the delete token. So as long as you keep hold of the delete token for a specific image, you’re able to delete it later.

    Lemmy-ui (the official frontend) will give you the option to delete an image again shortly after uploading it. However, it’s not possible to remove the image after actually creating the post, as the delete token associated with that post isn’t remembered anywhere on the Lemmy backend.

    As for other Lemmy clients, YMMV. The client I work on (Mlem) deletes images if you remove them from a post before posting it, but has the same pitfall as Lemmy-ui in that it won’t delete the image if you’ve already created the post.

    It would be possible to locally save the delete tokens of every image you upload, so that you can request that they be removed later. I don’t know of any clients that can do this yet, though (if someone knows of one, feel free to mention it).

    Edit: clarity

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This got me curious on how many images are on all Lemmy instances combined and how much storage it all takes up.

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  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I can tell you that for lemmy.ca we use 778gb

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Holy fucking shit balls. I contemplated seeing up an instance on a £5 VPS. Hmmmm, I think my scale is a bit off.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You can consider almost anything publicly posted to Lemmy as permanent. As I keep saying, please be careful.

    I do think a way to automatically store the uploaded image urls and associated delete keys under your user is a necessary feature.

    For personal image hosting I use postimage, but any external host that lets you modify/remove images under your account will do.

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Seems that one of the problems with regards to this post has been recently fixed and will be included in the next release :)

    https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/pull/2385

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What happens when you share a link to an image? Does Lemmy just save the link or does it make a copy of the image?

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    If you upload an image from your browser, there's a little popup in the corner for a few seconds that allows you to delete it again. No such thing exists in the apps though and if you miss the popup, that's it.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Isn't this in violation of the gdpr?

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