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Mortality data of the past four years show a wave of deadly cardiovascular and metabolic illness.

From 2020 to 2022, a quarter of a million more Americans over 35 years old succumbed to cardiovascular disease than predicted based on historical trends, according to Bloomberg analysis of data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In 2023, age-adjusted stroke mortality was almost 5% above pre-pandemic levels, according to preliminary data, while rates from deaths related to hypertensive heart disease, rhythm abnormalities, blood clots, diabetes and kidney failure were 15-28% higher. Covid had a muted impact on other common causes of death such as cancer and Alzheimer’s disease, the data show.

“The cardiometabolic aftereffects of SARS-CoV-2 have been profound, persistent, and peculiar — really peculiar,” said cardiologist Susan Cheng, director of public health research at Cedars-Sinai’s Smidt Heart Institute in Los Angeles.

frothingfash vaxxed?

Greater immunity and the emergence of less severe variants have since lowered the incidence of deadly complications, but the problem hasn’t gone away. Each coronavirus infection a person experiences, no matter how mild, might be acting like its own cardiovascular risk factor, she said. The longer-term effects are even more mysterious.

Doctors in the article are puzzled about if the cause is because Americans are too fat, or "the lockdowns" (not the hospitals being flooded with sick people for months at a time) caused people to avoid doctors, while noting that the healthcare system itself broke down and has made it harder for people to find care in the first place ever since. Could it be that these "less severe" variants are still causing heart problems? Gosh, maybe, but it's just a big ol' puzzle and no one can be sure of anything yet.

reddit-logo threads on this article are full of people describing the new heart conditions they developed after getting covid.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if that disease that specifically infects the lining of blood vessels has anything to do with it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you mean the one linked with blood clotting and circulation issues? probably not that would be ridiculous

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Ah yes, Crovid-20

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You mean the disease that specifically infects every tissue in the body

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

No, I mean the one that infects the specific tissue that is in literally every part of the body

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Such concerns highlight Covid’s broad and enduring consequences that doctors, researchers, and demographers are struggling to fathom. Difficulty teasing out the multiple drivers of the excess deaths in the pandemic era makes it challenging to anticipate if and when mortality might resume a more normal pattern. This is frustrating efforts to calculate how many people are likely to die each year.

The grim statistic is crucial in projecting population growth and making appropriate plans for everything from road-building to pensions. It also sets a baseline for measuring excess mortality needed to quantify the impact of flu and other diseases and to identify priority areas for preventative public health programs.

“It’s a challenge because we’re not sure what the new normal is,” the CDC’s Anderson said. “I’m not sure that we can really get a good handle on this for another year or two.”

So much for back to normal. thinkin-lenin

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

The new normal: like the old normal but now with 10% more death and disease.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

It's probably a combination of factors if we're being honest. Sudden behavioral changes and healthcare systems practically collapsing probably do contribute comparatively to covid's damage to the cardiovascular system. "Back to normal" probably won't happen for a generation and it's sad that leaders can't admit that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This shit is infuriating. I read this and based on all the information presented in here, covid is squarely to blame. Yet everyone they quote just seems to throw up their hands and go "well who can really say." The two things they do blame are obesity (which makes no sense based on the information presented in the article, and they even present information that contradicts this) and lockdowns (which does make sense, except they do no analysis-they blame lockdowns without realizing that our failed response is the reason lockdowns turned out how they did). The one place they do present some really good information and seem ready to finally admit covid is causing the increase, they turn around and quote some Australian actuary (which...what? Surely there's better people to comment on a public health crisis) who says "yeah it's really impossible to know" and that's the conclusion to that section. Absolutely horrible article. Anything to draw attention away from our continuing failed response to covid.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I find it odd they say "well people stopped going to the doctor because of lockdowns". Motherfuckers in 2015 people were doing frontier medicine because going to the hospital was like $2000.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I definitely leveled up at least once in medical on myself

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

They frame it as if it was some unhealthy anxiety over infection, completely ignoring how many people were dying during the worst of it and that doctors were forced to ration care.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I know someone who developed almost deadly arrythmia due to scarring in their heart post Covid. They had a disease that made them more prone to it, but echo-cardiograms from before and after are remarkably different. The inflammation from Covid almost certainly caused the knock on effects and arrythmia, and now he's deteriorating into different levels of disabled.

Thanks Biden, back to normal we gooooooo!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Motherfucker only won because Trump fucked up the covid response, and now that's off the table because we memory-holed the trauma everyone went through and liberals are now acting like people trying to avoid a disease that gives you heart disease and brain damage, and killing thousands of people a week, are being ridiculous.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I hate reading shit like this because it's a colossal trigger to my panic and anxiety. But simultaneously, it acts as the perfect reason to continue avoiding going out anywhere remotely crowded.

Now, my cardiologist says I'm in great cardiac health, but I'm still terrified that the one time I got COVID a couple years ago, I had to go to the ER because my heart rate refused to drop below 120 resting. I have been terrified that I have had some sort of long-lasting consequences that simply haven't shown themselves yet. And each article that comes out chronicling the effects of COVID on cardiac health like this just continues to terrify the piss out of me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

IMO The problem is not really long-lasting damage, the problem is that you're susceptible to COVID and that this can happen to you again

If you had long-lasting damage you'd probably know it, assuming you're concerned about it/keep a watchful eye/recognize that COVID is the cause of 80% of health problems since 2020 (which most people aren't)

I think that the "damage" from COVID is largely reversible as long as the criteria of "not breathing in more COVID" is met. Obviously 99.9999999999% of people never fulfill this criteria (and most are unable to)

I had those same exact symptoms btw. I'd bet money that you had variable POTS and temporary oxygen drops. Maybe also reduced urine content during the acute/early long-COVID phase.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

If you are up to date on covid vaccines you greatly reduce the risk for about 6 months (on average about how long antibodies to covid last post-vaccine or exposure). That greatly reduced risk still seems way too fucking high for something we are going to be continually exposed to.

Two close friends have heart problems post-covid, one of them has required heart surgery twice in two years and keeps getting exposed to covid because no one in the care home he now lives in gives a shit.

We apparently took the all or nothing approach because it's easier and they figured repeatedly exposing everyone to covid would "defang" the virus, when all it's doing is causing covid to mutate 3-4x faster than the flu, and it's killing 3-4x as many people as well, even after the worst is over. It's pretty bleak.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

HMMMMM I wonder what it could be thonk

Doctors in the article are puzzled about if the cause is because Americans are too fat, or "the lockdowns" caused people to avoid doctors

What about "cracker elites funded a bioweapon and then released it on the world"?
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

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