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RIP Gamestream?

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

I mean, cool, they're finally replacing Geforce Experience, one of the worst pieces of software ever made.

But they're replacing it with shit that commits all the same crimes. Locally run webserver hosting web interfaces and a website running in a packaged Chrome accesses. Instead of something utterly wild like oh I don't know, actually building a piece of software not a web page!

Also it still commits the cardinal crime of letting 11y old me do the design and what I thought was "COOOOOL!", instead of just, you know, looking like an app. In the design language of the OS. Which would be wild, I know.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Hey at least you won't have to sign in anymore just to get automatic driver update checking.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

That is true. I will say, even with all the features dropped, this is a step in the right direction.

It's a small one overall, but credit where credit is due, this shows promise. Just wish the underlying architecture were better, it's still based on the packaged chrome thing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

But being forced to create an account for basic software features is my favorite part!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

You need an account for update checks? Yet another stupid NVidia antifeature that NVCleanstall saves me from, I guess...

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

I fucking work in web development, and I’d rather a UI for a desktop app be built in a native coding framework.

It doesn’t even connect well to all the system level shit it needs to do. EA’s app had a million issues with this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If they're replacing GeForce experience.... Is that going to break moonlight?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

By itself, yes. GameStream is EOL. And this is said end, it seems.

Your replacement option is Sunshine, or switching to using a steam link setup.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Shit that what I meant to put. Will this affect Sunshine?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not for me, no. Sunshine is already the open re-implementation of the gamestream component of Geforce Experience.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

one of the worst pieces of software ever made

That's kind of an understatement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Hey, Logitech G-Hub is bad too!!

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (9 children)

How about just let us download our fucking drivers through a regular package manager like all our other updates you privacy raping shit gibbons?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Definitely better than GeForce Experience but not exactly what I'm talking about either.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago (2 children)

At least you can still download just the driver. Its literally just bloatware from your graphics card manufacture.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Good, I've unchecked movies experience so many times

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can try, but those assholes will keep trying to get your data

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Just on install, the legal stuff you need to accept is just creepy af. Next time i will get a AMD graphics card, it has a lot more open drivers ( especially because i am a linux user )

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Imagine if your GPU drivers just updated through your package manager. We could have so much automated shit but Nvidia needs tk collect your personal data so heres a web page disguised ss an app. I fucken hate this shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, they do on Windows.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Only WHQL drivers though and it's slow to get onto the WSUS catalog

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago

if nvidia spent as much time on their drivers as they do on their failed software attempts the drivers might actually work

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Geforce Experience had a non-zero percent influence on my choice to go radeon this time around. I doubt this replacement would fare any better, by the sounds of things.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nvidia experience has gotten so bad that I actually download drivers manually from the site again. It should not take 3+ minutes to start a program that does virtually nothing and THEN make me login to even fucking use it - just to update the driver.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm using NVCleanstall, it let's let's you configure exactly what components you want installed or not. Can even choose not to install the HDMI audio driver if you don't have a need for it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Their normal installer allows the hdmi to be removed too, was so happy when I discovered that because I want my monitor to act as speakers exactly never

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I don't even use this app on my windows install. As soon as it made me log in I just uninstalled it. Why the fuck would I need to enable data collection to tweak the video card I bought off them? It's bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Using the Radeon software is such a good experience. I never had any issues with it or the driver, they are looking clean, are responsive and actually helpful.

Hope that you get a similar experience, for how expensive Nvidia is it should be mandatory to have a good software...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I went the other way, I do miss the control radeon had, now I have to use afterburner to do the fan control stuff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's completely optional. All the real driver options are in the control panel.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Given how atrocious it is to download drivers from their website...

You're mostly right but damn, their offerings aren't pretty.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I haven't used NVIDIA for drivers in years. You can use NVCleanstall to install them without all the crap.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

I never realized how stupid GeForce Experience was until I built a PC for someone and realized I'd have to explain to them that they need to register an account on a special software just to keep their GPU driver updated.

Even with the insanity of Nvidia on linux, all I have to do is sudo dnf install akmod-nvidia once and let dnf handle updates automatically.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is it another electron app?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

With 10x the tracking, and "AI" to scan your files to help "optimize" your experience?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Fucking finally. Their current one is trash.

Hope they also add overclocking and stuff too, like in AMD's control panel. And remove the telemetry bs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

The RTX HDR is fucking lit, especially on emulators cause reshade HDR just was, alright.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Any recommendations for fine tuning Sunshine to match Nvidia's local Gamestream? I haven't had much luck in getting Sunshine to run as smoothly at 4K 120Hz HDR 150Mbps via LAN as Nvidia's deprecated streaming server software, so have to slow to migrate over.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Sunshine/Moonlight should perform better than Gamestream at the default settings.Try turning down your bitrate. 4K will work fine at 100Mbps.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Uh sunshine is usually MORE performant, not less. I would suggest heading to the Moonlight/Sunshine discord server and requesting help there.

Personally I have no issues streaming 4k@60 150mbps on a wired connection with moonlight and sunshine. Would try @120 if I had a display that supported it lol

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Gamestream was already killed, no? I had to install Sunshine to carry on using Moonlight on my Nvidia Shield.

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