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I'm fucking aggravated I went to the gay bar because it's the only bar in this shit hole city with an even mildly clubby vide and the dance floor was completely empty and I got hit on by a guy old enough to be my dad which at the time was amusing but now I'm like wtf even gay men are men? Dumb fucking guppies I guess I have to drive the hour and a half to philly just for a dance floor ridiculous

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is the funniest thing to me in this moment as I climb into bed after hosting a dance party that had 40 planned guests and 10 people show up and only 5 of them dance.

You can't find a place to dance and I can't find people to dance and the world is not as it should be.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've been the only guy on the dance floor a billion times and it's great, if that helps.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am at this moment sitting between dances at a dance social. I hear your pain...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've been getting into salsa and it's a great scene but I want to shuffle to some EDM too you know?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Salsa is one focus I haven't got comfortable with, I prefer Bachata so far. I've never figured out EDM

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Are you new to gay bars or the queer scene? You might have been clocked as straight and you were getting a vibe-check by the older guy, idk if you're aware of this phenomenon.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

I think the main complaint was that the dance floor was empty though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

maybe my town (or me lmao) is just asocial but I read as pretty straight and masc and nobody's ever said shit to me, let alone hit on me, its not unreasonable to assume it was genuine. Not the point but I wish people would hit on me at gay bars lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If I went to a gay bar and nobody hit on me I would demand a refund

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Sorry but they don't offer refunds or exchanges on your sexuality. You're gonna have to learn to embrace it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So there's a trend and idk if it has carried over to the younger generations of queer men but back when homophobia came with a lot more violence and things like evictions and terminations (not to mention bachelorette parties where women in straight relationships would go as tourists to use queer people as accessories and to flaunt the fact that they could get married while queer people were legally excluded from this) gay men in particular would clock the straight men and basically put them to the test - they would come on really strongly and observe your reaction. If you got aggressive or violent then you'd get kicked out and banned before you could cause serious trouble elsewhere where the bartenders and bouncers might not be ready at hand. If you got uncomfortable then they'd lean into that and make you more uncomfortable because, basically, there's no need to tell someone that they are unwelcome here when you can make them feel deeply unwelcome instead. Saves repeat visits that way too because you almost certainly aren't going to come back for another round.

The last two options are that you are polite and respectful, and you either decline their advances (in which case most of the time they'll quickly ease off) or you'll reciprocate. Either way, congratulations - you just passed the vibe check!

Look at me giving away trade secrets like this (pun intended).

But yeah, he might have just been trying his luck too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It was his second time at the bar and he was genuinely looking for a relationship. He was a super interesting guy and I liked talking to him. But he was literally twice my age I was just a little shocked.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Haha yeah, gay men's hookup/pickup culture is very... forward. I think there's much less constraints that are imposed by broader societal expectations within the community - there's a very laissez-faire attitude towards people's romantic and sexual preferences, and towards pursuing these.

I'm stealth pansexual and always have been. I'm not masculine-acting in a self-conscious sort of way but I think I come off as a typical guy who's a bit nerdy or kinda plain - basically a just like a typical guy you'd encounter in an office work sort of job. I know how to ping on a guy's gaydar if I want to get their attention but even it's not uncommon for queer guys to give me the really?? look.

Whenever I've been in an opposite-gender relationship or encounter with a cishet woman, they've always been a bit dumbstruck by how unconstrained I am with regards to sexuality. Not in a creepy or inappropriate way but just like a very forthright and unconcerned way. Internally, whenever this happens to me I always think to myself "Are the straights okay??"

I think that the queer community, especially white cis queer men, have undergone a fair bit of "renovation" in more recent years since becoming accepted into mainstream society and culture so there might be a bit of a generational gap where older queer guys are much more aligned to this old school queer culture whereas people of your age might be a bit more... how to put it? Conservative kinda sucks to use in these terms but maybe mainstream, on account of being less ostracised by the community at large. No shade on either side of that equation, it just is what it is.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

We all must do our part to spread covid

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

My father-in-law goes to salsa clubs like every weekend

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Do you have anybody local you can ask? Our local spots are either deserted or very weird about it before a certain time on certain night(s).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

you can dance anywhere you catch covid, it doesn't need to be a specific venue

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

There's lots of ballrooms where I'm at that do waltz, swing, and Latin dances. Dance studios usually have a night dedicated to social dancing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

If you like ballroom dancing, Lion's Club may have some dance parties in your area. If you like salsa, you can look wherever Latino music/events are. That's the best bet in my experience. I love dancing, but I haven't done any swing or salsa with people for years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

there's a couple spots in my city but idk how reliable they are because I'm not much of a dancer (too large and clumsy and such). One of them is a supposedly gay club, but is notoriously filled with 16-21 year old straight girls though too which is not exactly my scene even if I was to go. Been in one or two mosh pits and one very dead hotel conference hall dancefloor after a convention and had a good time but you know, one of those is made for running into people and I still had to be a little careful and the other one was empty but for me and my friend jumping around like crazy people who don't know how to dance

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I stopped dancing when I finished school but we would always swing at the country bars