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Trump’s legal team also tried to throw cold water on the idea in a filing earlier this week, writing that the “events of January 6 were not an ‘insurrection’ as they did not involve an organized attempt to overthrow or resist the U.S. government.”

Trump disagrees, apparently.

“They kept saying about what I said right after the insurrection,” he said outside Mar-a-Lago after arguments concluded in Washington, D.C. “I think it was an insurrection caused by Nancy Pelosi.

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[–] [email protected] 200 points 9 months ago (47 children)

But Biden’s brain is the one we should be worried about. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 63 points 9 months ago (12 children)

We should, because it's the brain that has to beat Trump. We don't have any better options, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (23 children)

We have better options; the DNC and GOP both refuse to present one.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I really thought in 2016 Bernie would splinter the democrats and we’d have a true left party. I also thought trump would create a new party on the right and the republicans would go back to being republicans. Can you imagine a 4 party system!

To my surprise, the trump dragged the republicans even further to the right, and the democrats moved even more center-right to appease ex-republicans. So the whole nation just moved right, which is sad.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

FPTP tends towards a two-party system. CGP Grey made a video about it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

it's been moving to the right my whole lifetime. i'm 64. we're not right at the fascist line, with our right wing party actually over the line, and no far left at all.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I'm worried about both. Neither should be president. Trump never should have been. Having 70 and 80+ year old presidents that couldn't program a damned TV remote is just a showcase of how terrible our plutocracy has become.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, we do have that well publicized viral tweet from Pelosi where she called all her supporters to DC telling them "Will be wild!" then topped that off by whipping the crowd into a frenzy by telling them they have to "fight like hell".

Oh, wait, that was Trump...

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I mean, I understand how the law works and everything, but from a very pragmatic perspective, how is there even a soupçon of doubt at this point? Having a trial for this really feels more like we're asking "which side has craftier lawyers" rather than "did he actually incite an insurrection". It seems so silly.

(I hope this makes sense, I'm a little high.)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I don't understand, but I'm also a little high. So I blame that

That being said, I can't tell you how excited I am for soupcon this year. I'm going dressed as split-pea

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There's no doubt, the rightists on the court want him there and the liberals are terrified of speaking out one this one. The procedural argument they're using is that "the 14th Amendment delegates this power to Congress, so Colorado doesn't get to unilaterally decide because they're bypassing Congress." Unfortunately for this line of argument, Congress already used its authority to pass a law, 18 U.S.C. § 2383, which states that anybody who engages "in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto" is ineligible for political office.

Since the courts have already sent a variety of participants and organizers to prison for seditious conspiracy, seems pretty reasonable to conclude there have already been findings than Jan 6 was an insurrection or rebellion of some kind, or else it wouldn't have been seditious. Even more to the point, participants in Jan 6 have already been found ineligible and removed from public office due to their participation in Jan 6. Colorado is simply applying already-existing federal statutes regarding Trump's eligibility, and more to the point, arguably states that ARE putting him on the ballot are actually the ones flaunting federal law.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If Nancy Pelosi caused the insurrection why didn't your people try to charge her instead of focusing on Hunter Biden?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Two more words:

For.

MTG.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

He meant Nancy Pelosi (and schumer) insurrected against his rightful rule by coordinating with the police, mayor, and national guard to squash his... "good people"

[–] [email protected] 77 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The Narcissist's Prayer

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault. <- We are now here
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We're definitely not going to get to hear "i didn't mean it."

And I'd argue that we're already on the last line.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He's not currently on trial for insurrection, for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He's on trial for the January 6th insurrection. Specifically: conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding and conspiracy against rights.

The two in the middle are going to be very hard to defend against considering he admits it was an insurrection.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I agree he's guilty on all charges, but he wasn't charged with insurrection. He should have been charged with insurrection and seditious conspiracy.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago

I think it was an insurrection caused by Nancy Pelosi.

Those first two words are doing some hard work fending off a slander suit.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago

Colorado needs to throw the middle finger to scotus and keep trump off the general election ballot.
Roberts has made his decision. Now let him enforce it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So the people who were Antifa and MAGA patriots who went to the Capital to peacefully cause an insurrection that was and wasn't a false flag setup by the FBI and "globalists" and are going to prison because of the actions they did and didn't do on Jan 6 were all being led by... Pelosi?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I kind of feel for him. It would be hard to keep track of that many unhinged lies

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (5 children)

No need to keep track, just say whatever you want to say in the moment. Your followers don't care and the media certainly isn't going to call you on it.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think it was an insurrection caused by Nancy Pelosi.

How dare Nikki Haley cause an insurrection!

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago

That's RIGHT! January 6th was OBVIOUSLY an Insurrection plotted by Nancy Pelosi to send FBI and Antifa into the Capitol to STOP the certification of their chosen Candidate because that's the ONLY way to make Grab Her By The Pussy look BAD! But it also WASN'T an Insurrection and all those people in jail are PRISONERS OF WAR that need to be released! Unless they are Antifa or FBI which they AREN'T even though it was ONLY FBI and Antifa committing the Insurrection that was NOT an Insurrection!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Trump’s legal team also tried to throw cold water on the idea in a filing earlier this week, writing that the “events of January 6 were not an ‘insurrection’ as they did not involve an organized attempt to overthrow or resist the U.S. government.”

Well, they are right on part of that. It definitely wasn't well organized, just like the entirety of Trump's presidency. I thank the powers that be on a regular basis that he and his cronies were so incompetent.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If J6 was all democratic agitators in red hats, why is half of his platform pardoning anybody and everybody with J6 charges? 🤔

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Are you kidding me? These ads are fucking insane. Christ

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Ad blocker.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

His stupid mouth is like how Darth Vader was supposed to bring balance to the force in Star Wars Ep. 6

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

straight from the horse's ass's mouth 🤣

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

His cultists will still say it was peaceful or bring up another event lol.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have the impression the case before the supreme court is being pushed in the wrong direction ... It should be about Trump being an insurrectionist (and consequently not able to be re-elected). This would give a clear cut answer and stops everything good, or bad.

Not the current argument of if states are allowed to ban anyone from the ballot. Where the supreme court can wiggle it's answer and blame individual States for blocking the democratic process. Whatever the answer will be here things will limp onwards with more and more court cases.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can he say that again in front of the Supreme Court Justices? I bet he doesn't have the balls!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He can say whatever he wants and those fuckers will still rule in his favour. The Supreme Court is very much part of the insurrection.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Insanity defense? He’s not competent to stand trial.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

last year i read an article by a neurologist who made the case that trump has dementia. it was pretty well supported by both his own observations and those of others. i was convinced.

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