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Jonathan Braun, whose sentence for drug smuggling was commuted in the final hours of the Trump presidency, was fined over separate accusations that he bilked and threatened borrowers.

When President Donald J. Trump, in his final hours in the White House in early 2021, commuted a 10-year drug smuggling sentence being served by a New Yorker named Jonathan Braun, he made no mention of Mr. Braun’s many other legal problems.

Months earlier, the Federal Trade Commission and the New York State attorney general had filed suits against Mr. Braun saying he swindled and intimidated borrowers who had taken money from a network of predatory lenders he ran, charging usurious interest rates and making violent threats.

On Tuesday, a federal judge in New York imposed $20 million in fines on Mr. Braun after finding him liable for the accusations made by the trade commission. Judge Jed S. Rakoff of the Federal District Court in Manhattan excoriated Mr. Braun in the ruling, depicting him as a hardened, craven man who “gleefully, with little remorse,” boasted about his illegal conduct and treated it as a “laughing matter” as he threatened the business owners he gouged.

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[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

Why can one person randomly pardon convicted criminals? It is sort of like a king in that regard. Why does this nonsense still exist?

[-] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

In a lot of pardoned or commuted sentences, it can come down to someone who had the book thrown at them over something relatively minor, and they have served a large portion of their sentences. Or, if conviction is dodgy.

Sometimes it comes down to if the person has well and truly changed their ways. And usually, the person asking for the pardon doesn't have any other legal problems unresolved.

Like if someone got caught with a couple ounces of marijuana, and the judge wanted to make an example of them, and gave them 57 years. And they've done 15, and marijuana is now legal in that state.

Or maybe someone was in a car, and the driver pulled a gun and shot someone, and they got charged with murder because they were an accessory because they were present.

I can come up with tons of scenarios, but typically, the commutation or pardoning of a sentence isn't taken lightly and a lot of evidence is presented as to why the person should be let go. But with trump, he's a dead brained fuck and someone probably gave him $500 bucks and told him this guy would give him lots of money if he got out.

The system of pardoning isn't really the issue at hand, it was the person issuing the pardon that was the problem.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Supposedly it was $2m per pardon.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

The issue is exactly the pardoning system for exactly the kind of persons like Trump. That is like saying a dictatorship is not the issue, just that one dictator.

[-] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Ok libertarian

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Here's the theory: a justice system can never be perfect, especially when implemented on a large scale. There will always be legal outcomes that are fundamentally unjust. Efforts should be made to minimize such outcomes , but they will never be eliminated.

Presidential pardons are essentially a way to override the entire justice system in specific cases. With the understanding that even if all actors had good intent and we're acting rationally the system would still result in unjust convictions, the power to recognize such injustice and summarily fix it is granted to the highest office in the land essentially with no oversight.

In a healthy democratic environment, it's still an imperfect idea, but it sort of works. When the president wouldn't dare use it to pardon his cronies or pardon obviously guilty people who did horrible things without remorse, then it mostly works. When the backlash for misusing the pardon power is being democratically crushed, then and only then it makes some sense.

I'm not saying it's a perfect idea. Whether the presidential pardon power should exist is debatable at the best of times, and I could come up with counter arguments to everything I said above.

The real problem is this isn't a healthy democratic environment. There's a cult of personality around one man. He used pardon power to pardon his cronies, and a slew of utter dirtbags, and nobody who voted for him cares . He lost zero votes for that. The problem with pardons is just one of the avenues of rot caused by that phenomenon.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

Instead of having a "King" that can override democratic institutions, the laws need to be changed to make sure the person is set free and also that it never happens again.

Obviously such systems can have benefits. It is far easier to push for (necessary) radical changes like we see in China. At the same time, everything depends on one person. History shows us that even the greatest leader at some point dies and their offspring hardly ever is as good, so the whole empire collapses. One big leader can also directly destroy an empire. Just look at what is happening to Russia. The USA are not at that point but also not too far off seeing how polarized most people are and what sort of bullshit propaganda many consume and buy into.

[-] theroofisonfire@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Thank you for including a non-paywall link.

[-] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Sweet, well deserved!

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