That's really good i had no ideam
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54% is unexpectedly high? What happened to the vaccine being a silver bullet? It's basically a coin flip...
Libs hyped the vaccine for the same reason that they've falsely called every variant since BA.1 "Omicron": Avoiding COVID is bad for the economy.
A vaccine that lets you avoid infection is said to provide sterilizing immunity, and for COVID, the only vaccines so far that have the goal of providing sterilizing immunity are mucosal vaccines. Currenty, the mucosal vaccines that exist are only authorized in China, India, Indonesia, Iran, Morocco, and Russia, but there might be a rollout in the US later this year.
Yeah it really is a bummer that the vaccine ended up being the flu vaccine type not the chickenpox type
Is keeping it asympotomatic enough to protect from the dangers though? Or are we just gonna have a bunch of brain damaged folks who don't know why they're getting early onset dementia when they're middle aged?
Yeah, it's hard to say. Generally all the evidence points to the worse symptoms you have, the more risk there is of long covid. But with the way the virus can evade or shut down the immune response, who knows?
Generally all the evidence points to the worse symptoms you have, the more risk there is of long covid.
Ah, see that's not what I've been hearing.
Long COVID most often occurs in people who had severe COVID-19 illness, but it is not restricted to those who were critically ill or hospitalized. People with mild disease and even those who did not develop symptoms can also be affected. In fact, most people with long COVID had mild acute COVID. Adults and children can both be affected, though Long COVID appears to be more common in adults. Researchers do not yet know how common the condition is, but studies have estimated that it occurs in 5% to 30% of people with COVID-19.
https://www.yalemedicine.org/conditions/long-covid-post-covid-conditions-pcc
That doesn't contradict the claim that more severe COVID puts you at higher risk. Most people with long COVID had mild symptoms because many more people had mild symptoms (and survived) than had severe symptoms. It's the same reason that "most people who get COVID have had at least one vaccine" isn't evidence that getting the vaccine makes you more likely to get COVID.
Ah no, you're right. Bad reading comprehension on my part.
It's an easy mistake to make. Statistics is weird.
I havent gotten the latest vaccine or whatever since June or July of 2023.
I wear a mask while working and in public, and due to my job (service plumber) i use gloves in peoples homes, and probably use too much sanitizer as it is.
Every single time ive gotten vaccinated or a booster its made me sick. Ive always gotten them on a Friday, right after work. And every single time, within 4-6 hours of it, im ill. Fever, headaches, extreme fatigue, etc. and it lasts about a week.
Ive still had Covid three times, since Jan of 2021. Each time i had Covid, i had it about a week. And each time i had Covid, it was nowhere as severe as after getting vaccinated.
Im far too stupid to understand the science, but i kinda dread getting vaccinated now. I know whats in store when i do, and i dunno if its just in my head or what, but it seems like each vaccination makes me feel worse than the ones before. I get honest to goodness anxiety when going to get vaccinated or thinking about it but im kind of a nervous nellie anyway.
Yeah that can happen with vaccines, because you aren't actually sick, it's just your immune system overreacting to something that it thinks can make you sick. This does, however, give you symptoms you associate with illness. Your subsequent covid infections - during which you are actually sick, with something that can cause you actual permanent damage and death - are considerably less severe because you took the vaccine.
That really sucks it fucks you up for an entire week though, it's only a day or two for me.
I'm the opposite, the vaccine just gives me a sore arm or a headache. But COVID made me feel like I was going to die on one of the days the whole week I was sick.
Have you spoken to any doctor or medical professional about this?
Twice mentioned to my old GP. The doctor i was seeing was sort of an asshole to begin with, and both times he just sort of handwaved away my concerns, telling me something like ‘it tends to make everyone feel a little crappy but the severity is different for everyone’ and that was that.
I just got a new GP a couple months ago, and havent broached the subject with her yet. I have my next checkup in a couple weeks and intend to ask about it then. Im of moderate risk, im asthmatic, and have COPD, and i am around my elderly parents often enough that i get vaccinated for everything as a precaution, so it isnt my intention to not be vaccinated, the dread is just a real MF for me.
While I don't want to downplay your experience, I honestly can't imagine a doctor taking ~~anti-covid vax complaints~~ vaccine skepticism very seriously at this point, especially depending on delivery.
edit: the wording communicated something I did not intend. I am assuming everyone here is in good faith, was just trying to point out that there is not necessarily reason for doctors to think so or to hold up under this sort of sustained societal malice/indifference
Lmao, here in Florida our Surgeon General is antivax and they are very much not alone.
Novavax is supposed to have a lot less severe side effects. More akin to a flu vaccine.
I've gotten moderna every time and it knocks my ass out for a few days each time. I haven't gotten a symptomatic case of covid since taking the vaccines, but I'm also pretty dilligent on masking in public and thankfully most of the people close to me still take precautions.