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President Joe Biden on Friday ordered a historic change to the Uniform Code of Military Justice by transferring key decision-making authorities outside the military chain of command in cases of sexual assault, domestic violence, child abuse, murder and other serious crimes.

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[–] [email protected] 147 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It was in the chain of command before? Wow gee I wonder how that could possibly go wrong!

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

Just to spell it out:

Promotions are based on performance. After a few promotions, you have people that report to you. This means their performance is your performance. So the CoC properly handling rape allegations is against their own self interest.

There's a documentary called the invisible war that covers this topic in excruciating detail.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

Did I rape my subordinates?

Let me check...

Nope, I found no wrongdoing.

Here that, gang? Now stay in line.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ahh good. The Catholic Church model of reporting and punishment doesn't work so well

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I heard Pope Francis was changing that, cause yeaaaah...

Having it reported through Confession which by doctrine cannot be shared or punished, not really working out for anyone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Works out great for the rapists

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago

oh oh!!! now to the police next please!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Time for the floodgates to open.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Till the next repub pres ovrrturns this?

Regardless, hope this sticks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe. But all the reversals are politically motivated so depends how much their base will get hard on reversing it. I'm sure there are other juicier targets for them to get through first. Unless it's Trump. Trump seems to be more interested in the appearance of money and power.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can someone explain the change to me? I do not understand how it was done before, why that was bad, and how this is different and better. (Things I probably would have included in the article, had I written it)

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Historically, these investigations have been handled by the higher-ups in the chain of command. Say one soldier raped another and the victim reported it. Their mutual boss and that boss's bosses would be responsible for any investigation and discipline.

They have the same negative incentive to provide thorough investigation and justice as college campus police do - because in the end it makes them look bad at their jobs and makes the institution that signs their paychecks look bad. So they just don't. Often victims are ignored or worse, disciplined themselves.

This change will provide a third party not involved in the chain of command for reporting and investigation of sexual assault allegations.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Ok that definitely gives me some context. Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Adding to @[email protected] comment: The military has a peculiar concept for responsibility in command, such that a senior officer or even NCO could have thier career totally ruined for investigating a rape. Not for other crimes, mind you, but some arcane language held that they could be held culpable for not having prevented the attack. Biden has rather firmly corrected that error.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Good addendum, I appreciate it!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I gotta say, I had zero expectation of anything from Biden, but he has definitely delivered a few pretty good somethings, and this looks like another one. I hope they have a great day today wherever the Bidens are hanging out.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I need some good news today and this was it. Solid work. And quick too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Kinda surprised it took this long.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I've heard it said that women in the military get assaulted so often they're basically the state's own unwilling prostitutes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If this only affects prosecution of crimes inside of the military that is already a great step but what I really wonder about is if it will also affect prosecution of war crimes committed by US military. Could someone elaborate please?

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