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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is haunting.

There's no gore or anything, it's just twisted metal and cables. Still, seeing it and thinking "humans were alive in there mere days ago" made my gut drop. It's not like looking at wreckage of an old ship or plane or something, it's different. Because it's so small, it feels more intimate. Like looking at a coffin vs looking at a graveyard

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (15 children)

The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Omg so tru. *Comits genocide

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow so deep /s

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Weren't the occupants cremated instantly?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Diluted

since they were in the water

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Like corn in a can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Superheated then liquidised and dispersed like chum

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow I didn't know they were going to recover it at all. Pretty cool. Can't wait to read about how shitty the design was.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, it’s well known by this point. But a “seconds from disaster” version of it would be interesting to watch as disaster porn.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Both titanium support rings were recovered intact. These are what bonded the carbon fiber hull to the titanium ends. There isn't any evidence of carbon fiber still attached in the photos/ videos of the debris.

Edit: more photos

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the front AND the back fell off? Is that normal?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Doesn't matter, it happened outside of the environment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

From your link it seems that even the front titanium hemisphere is still relatively intact.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I did not expect this thing to actually be hauled to shore. Kind of thought they were just going to leave it. How much did it cost to pull that thing up?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hopefully, examination of the wreckage will yield valuable information about the cause of the failure and help future designs of deep-sea submersibles.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We already know how to build submersibles. Engineers told the CEO that this submersible was not built to spec and not safe. He fired them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sure we do but there's always something to be learned from a failure. This sub was unique in it's design and while that design ultimately failed, the knowledge gained from the failure could potentially lead to an improved design that maintains some of the benefits such as low cost and high occupancy.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Normally I’d agree with you, but we already know that carbon fiber is weaker in compression than in tension and that you really shouldn’t attach it to titanium either, due to their differences in malleability.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean we have money for that. Not just for social services, cause that will set the wrong incentive /s

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These are the non-pressurised systems that would have gotten the least damage most likely.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Ya the only damage would be from the implosion and shrapnel. Everything else was sitting at the same pressure, so there's nothing really going on to cause damage.

It's weird seeing huge pieces that look relatively undamaged. Looks like you can just throw that frame with all the electronics in the spare parts bin and call it a day lol

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does one remove the tracking from a website?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

FYI you formatted the link backwards and it didn't work. Links should be formatted as

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Correct link is source

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Interesting - I had imagined it being imploded into bits like the simulations on the news show.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I believe this is the outer portion. The carbon fiber shell imploded and is probably not recoverable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm certainly no expert but I understand submarines have an inner and outer hull. The inner hull has to withstand the pressure of the deep but the outer hull does not. The inner hull would be crushed into bits but the outer hull and any equipment in-between would likely be ripped into large chunks as such a violent event occurs inside of it.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The outer shell didn't hold pressure and was there to cover wires/ equipment exposed outside the pressure vessel.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

like the simulations on the news show

Why would you put any faith in a simulation by an organization that has no knowledge of the domain?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder if they recovered the Xbox controller?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Controllers like that are used on nuclear attack submarines aswell so that is not the issue even though it might seem funny to someone not familiar with this stuff.

Those companies have made billions of them over several decades. It's much more reliable to go with a one like that than to develop a new one from scratch. Submarines don't implode because it was steered by a logitech controller

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Nuclear subs do not however use them for propulsion. Something like a very basic input delay or other Bluetooth issue could be catastrophic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In a video I heard the CEO say they have spare ones on hand, just in case. But still, having my life depend on a Bluetooth device seems just wrong. Why not go with a direct cable? Much less to go wrong!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't disagree. I almost refuse to use even wireless headphones myself.

However all the fail-safes on the sub were quite decent in my opinion so the controller isn't really life-critical. The issue was that none of the safety features protects you from far exceeding the rated maximum dive depth. They probably didn't know what hit them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was a Logitech controller. I guess he couldn't spring for the pricier Xbox controller.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you priced one of those Pro Controllers?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Is it ironic when the billionaires who live by cutting costs get stung by cost cutting?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Can we share Bezos in the next batch of billionaires?

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